3.7 In-Depth Ice Golems Guide - Snowybois - On Hiatus for 3.8

Here's a question I've been wondering since the Delve league came out. Why are Minion Damage rings so cheap? Is it just because rings offer better res + aspects + life than the normal minion damage rings? +70% minion damage seems awesome but no one wears them.
I think i am gonna get a skin of the loyal with good colors then, thank you very much everyone for the help and Happy Holidays!
Last edited by Trovarst#2474 on Dec 25, 2018, 5:32:32 AM
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Utopian238 wrote:
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yongsoo wrote:
If I rushed all the jewel slots... is it normal to be sitting at only 4K life at level 84?

I am running the life variant (not MoM). I am assuming life will just come with more levels?

Is taunt for minions better than blind?

How many Harmonies should be aiming to run?

Also if I don’t plan on min/max is the 4(R) 1(G) and 1(B) skinngood enough with a CoP?

Is a 1 abysss socket COP better than GRip?

Lastly would you recommend to get the 4(R) skin over a CoP with 2 Abyss sockets?0



Skin is great all the way to end-game, I ran everything with Skin last season.

Grip > CoP 1socket. Honestly to everyone in the thread just plan to use Grip it's 99% of what Cop 2 socket is.

Taunt is better for bossing, worse for mapping.

Harmonies/Eminence/Abyss jewel ratios are fluid with level and number of jewels you're running. Plan to use 2 Eminence and the rest Harmonies unless you want to import yourself into PoB and run the numbers yourself.


Grip is NEVER better then command of the pit , 1 socket or not.
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trefi289 wrote:
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Utopian238 wrote:
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yongsoo wrote:
If I rushed all the jewel slots... is it normal to be sitting at only 4K life at level 84?

I am running the life variant (not MoM). I am assuming life will just come with more levels?

Is taunt for minions better than blind?

How many Harmonies should be aiming to run?

Also if I don’t plan on min/max is the 4(R) 1(G) and 1(B) skinngood enough with a CoP?

Is a 1 abysss socket COP better than GRip?

Lastly would you recommend to get the 4(R) skin over a CoP with 2 Abyss sockets?0



Skin is great all the way to end-game, I ran everything with Skin last season.

Grip > CoP 1socket. Honestly to everyone in the thread just plan to use Grip it's 99% of what Cop 2 socket is.

Taunt is better for bossing, worse for mapping.

Harmonies/Eminence/Abyss jewel ratios are fluid with level and number of jewels you're running. Plan to use 2 Eminence and the rest Harmonies unless you want to import yourself into PoB and run the numbers yourself.


Grip is NEVER better then command of the pit , 1 socket or not.


lol, sounds that you paid too much for a COP! Grip is an amazing gloves.

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MetalSlave wrote:


lol, sounds that you paid too much for a COP! Grip is an amazing gloves.



Lol nice 50 iq there.

No1 said grip is bad item or expensive or cheap or that grip should be cheaper or more expensive, hes spreading wrong information that grip is better then command of the pit which is simply wrong and if it costs 2ex or 2000ex that is the fact.

Again nice 50iq logic there must be hard life yikes xD
Last edited by trefi289#2080 on Dec 25, 2018, 10:47:35 AM
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trefi289 wrote:
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MetalSlave wrote:


lol, sounds that you paid too much for a COP! Grip is an amazing gloves.



Lol nice 50 iq there.

No1 said grip is bad item or expensive or cheap or that grip should be cheaper or more expensive, hes spreading wrong information that grip is better then command of the pit which is simply wrong and if it costs 2ex or 2000ex that is the fact.

Again nice 50iq logic there must be hard life yikes xD


The kid is real mad! OP advice makes sense kid... I dont want to polute so great thread so its my last reply for this regard.
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MetalSlave wrote:
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trefi289 wrote:
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MetalSlave wrote:


lol, sounds that you paid too much for a COP! Grip is an amazing gloves.



Lol nice 50 iq there.

No1 said grip is bad item or expensive or cheap or that grip should be cheaper or more expensive, hes spreading wrong information that grip is better then command of the pit which is simply wrong and if it costs 2ex or 2000ex that is the fact.

Again nice 50iq logic there must be hard life yikes xD


The kid is real mad! OP advice makes sense kid... I dont want to polute so great thread so its my last reply for this regard.


Yeah i am so mad right now you have no idea how mad i am, i invest so much of my emotions when i see a person that can't make a single coherent sentence with a god forbid anything resembling a single argument.

Good alternate reality you live in :D

Cy@
Last edited by trefi289#2080 on Dec 25, 2018, 11:32:46 AM
Command of the pit is hands down the best gloves because of the accuracy rating it gives to your Golems.. Maybe you don't feel any different on low Tier maps. But when you go high tier you will see a very big difference..

Don't have to import it into pob because you only see the damage output but not factor in the accuracy..

I have 6.4k life, can visit my profile if u guys need some insight.
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fatmao87 wrote:
Command of the pit is hands down the best gloves because of the accuracy rating it gives to your Golems.. Maybe you don't feel any different on low Tier maps. But when you go high tier you will see a very big difference..

Don't have to import it into pob because you only see the damage output but not factor in the accuracy..

I have 6.4k life, can visit my profile if u guys need some insight.


This

And also grip has too many useless stats on it, minion resistance useless, less move speed is not good either, quite a chunk of less life and dmg it gives its only compareable when target has EE which in clearing map or sometimes even on boss its too risky to apply EE and u lose on dmg that way.

Gloves are crazy budget good but never better then cop in any scenario.
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trefi289 wrote:
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fatmao87 wrote:
Command of the pit is hands down the best gloves because of the accuracy rating it gives to your Golems.. Maybe you don't feel any different on low Tier maps. But when you go high tier you will see a very big difference..

Don't have to import it into pob because you only see the damage output but not factor in the accuracy..

I have 6.4k life, can visit my profile if u guys need some insight.


This

And also grip has too many useless stats on it, minion resistance useless, less move speed is not good either, quite a chunk of less life and dmg it gives its only compareable when target has EE which in clearing map or sometimes even on boss its too risky to apply EE and u lose on dmg that way.

Gloves are crazy budget good but never better then cop in any scenario.


There's a name for this: Feelcraft

Op is comparing grip+ the war banner factor against the 1 sock cop.

Bring some numbers please, get the hit ratio spreadsheet against lvl 80 monsters so we can compare. How much % u Will hit more? 10,20%? That Will compensate the damage Burst from grip? What is the time lenght of the fight? Again, more numbers and less feelings.

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