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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Meothaku wrote:
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@Cyrix1337

Quick update on the deep delve:
I've now switched the three dragon for a

This allow me to apply freeze on monsters with the cold conversion. It's basicaly the same effect.
I'm now able to put back the indigon again.

Also since i was using "three dragon", i noticed on pob that hypothermia was in front of lighting pen. So my setup has changed quite a bit from yours now.

Furthermore in remembered that in pob, i always apply damage to "shaper". But in delve it's not. You are always facing trash monsters, and when you check "no" on ennemy is a boss, lighting pen is dropping in rank, and hypotermia gives a big bonus due to the constant freeze/chill effect.

I think i will stick with this setup until i reach 1K. (might switch to a corruption glove with ele weakness on glove since the temp chain is not doing much with the freeze)
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@"Meothaku"
Sat down real quick and here is what my delving setup would probs look like:

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3 Purities (80/80/82), Call of the Brotherhood, 92%Chance to Freeze, almost 3Mio Arc DPS and over 7k ES. I also got this Poet's Pen here:
which has the Proliferation corruption to spread the Freeze. Should be fairly save.

Anyhow! I am off to bed o/


Hey Cyrix, I was hoping to get your input on a few things. I am also trying to path of building a delve alternative, similar to what you did here, but I can't afford the Aul neck yet.

How do you determine the change to freeze, I am running herald of ice and going to go call of Brotherhood instead of the shaper ring for delves. My PoB shows 66% chance to freeze with shaper ring and 66% chance to freeze when I equip brotherhood. Shouldn't that go up by converting a ton of lightning to cold?

Also, how do you figure the DPS, you note 3M for arc. Path of building shows me something like 75k dps on the left side when I choose arc. What am I looking at wrong?
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Meothaku wrote:
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@Cyrix1337

Quick update on the deep delve:
I've now switched the three dragon for a

This allow me to apply freeze on monsters with the cold conversion. It's basicaly the same effect.
I'm now able to put back the indigon again.

Also since i was using "three dragon", i noticed on pob that hypothermia was in front of lighting pen. So my setup has changed quite a bit from yours now.

Furthermore in remembered that in pob, i always apply damage to "shaper". But in delve it's not. You are always facing trash monsters, and when you check "no" on ennemy is a boss, lighting pen is dropping in rank, and hypotermia gives a big bonus due to the constant freeze/chill effect.

I think i will stick with this setup until i reach 1K. (might switch to a corruption glove with ele weakness on glove since the temp chain is not doing much with the freeze)
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@"Meothaku"
Sat down real quick and here is what my delving setup would probs look like:

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3 Purities (80/80/82), Call of the Brotherhood, 92%Chance to Freeze, almost 3Mio Arc DPS and over 7k ES. I also got this Poet's Pen here:
which has the Proliferation corruption to spread the Freeze. Should be fairly save.

Anyhow! I am off to bed o/


Hey Cyrix, I was hoping to get your input on a few things. I am also trying to path of building a delve alternative, similar to what you did here, but I can't afford the Aul neck yet.

How do you determine the chance to freeze, I am running herald of ice and going to go call of Brotherhood instead of the shaper ring for delves. My PoB shows 66% chance to freeze with shaper ring and 66% chance to freeze when I equip brotherhood. Shouldn't that go up by converting a ton of lightning to cold?

Also, how do you figure the DPS, you note 3M for arc. Path of building shows me something like 75k dps on the left side when I choose arc. What am I looking at wrong?
Last edited by dday_0612#2169 on Oct 4, 2018, 1:16:07 PM
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dday_0612 wrote:


Hey Cyrix, I was hoping to get your input on a few things. I am also trying to path of building a delve alternative, similar to what you did here, but I can't afford the Aul neck yet.

How do you determine the change to freeze, I am running herald of ice and going to go call of Brotherhood instead of the shaper ring for delves. My PoB shows 66% chance to freeze with shaper ring and 66% chance to freeze when I equip brotherhood. Shouldn't that go up by converting a ton of lightning to cold?

Also, how do you figure the DPS, you note 3M for arc. Path of building shows me something like 75k dps on the left side when I choose arc. What am I looking at wrong?


Critical Hits always apply Elemental Ailments. Thats why I changed Lightning Penetration Gems for Increased Critical Strikes for delving. That's also why going for any nodes that give a %Chance to apply Elemental Ailment are hot garbage if you are a crit-based build. The only other thing you need to check is to hit often/hard enough to overcome the freeze Threshold - which is not very hard to do on non-shaper/boss mobs in delves.

For more on that look here: https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Freeze

especially this part:

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Base freeze duration is 60 milliseconds (0.06 seconds) for every 1% of the target's maximum life (before party scaling) dealt by cold damage, up to a maximum of 50%. Freezes with a duration smaller than 0.3 seconds are discarded, effectively requiring a hit of 5% enemy life.


All the information is there in the PoB. If you go to calculation you can see the detailed breakdown of the abilities and how and where each increase/decrease more multiplier etc comes from.

The only thing I occasionally screw up with such PoBs are my resists - I tend to just slap whatever on my rares to get the build to work - in praxis one always need to find suitable rares and work a bit around them.

In this quick PoB I did I am useing an Indigon but dont have the Healthy Mind for example. Such and other things are trivial to correct - but if you can barely use PoB correctly or don't know the underlying mechanics of the game I would not advise you to copy the PoBs I post here when doing quick theorycrafting. Feel free to examine them though! :)



i don't know what to change, to either get more hp or damage or fit the indigon in there.

oh mighty cyrix, what do?
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Drest wrote:

oh mighty cyrix, what do?


No Idea! We are all doomed! \o/
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Drest wrote:

oh mighty cyrix, what do?


No Idea! We are all doomed! \o/


sadface

no, really. is indigon better than spider aspect? i don't think i can fit both together and have a decent amount of hp at lvl 91
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Drest wrote:
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Cyrix1337 wrote:
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Drest wrote:

oh mighty cyrix, what do?


No Idea! We are all doomed! \o/


sadface

no, really. is indigon better than spider aspect? i don't think i can fit both together and have a decent amount of hp at lvl 91


Depends a lot on what gear you have, whats available, how much currency you have etc. Both are solid upgrades. For now I would just level up some.
Time To use headhunter with that build Hope its good :)
This build is incredible. And it got even more incredible clearing with call of the brotherhood, and I picked up
so I can run Herald of Ice. Absolutely baller for clearing and I'm at 7100ES. To make use of the ammy I simply ditched Enlighten in my BM set up

Juuuuuuuuuust enough health to do it. In a perfect world obviously I'd like the Wrath variant but they are 25 exa.

edit: welp, Shaper down with this set up. Was fairly cringe though..need more ES than 7K to feel good but w/e, I'm not interested in farming him for the fail ass gloves lol
Last edited by DamageIncorporated#7815 on Oct 5, 2018, 2:47:28 AM
@biggydoom4
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Time To use headhunter with that build Hope its good :)


In heavy density maps, HH is always the best.

But in delve, i'm not sure it is the best option. I'm personnaly keeping the belt in deep delve for the strenght/dex bonus, and for the increased damage on elites. Overall i'm almost sure that a decent shaped belt with reduced cooldown in delve will do a better job.

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