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Question on Elemental Equilibrium, and apologies if it has already been asked and answered in the last 835 pages:

I know minions do not proc EE, but if I am using Wrath to add lightning damage to the zombies and skeletons, Wrath also gives MY attacks lightning damage. If I then use a fie skill (Armageddon Brand or Holy Flame Totem, for example), is Wrath adding lightning to those attacks from me, and thus giving mobs +25% lightning resist?

In my gear, I found two items that add lightning damage to attacks, and I need to cleanse those to make proper use of EE, but the question on Wrath still stands. Is that lightning damage it is giving me proc'ing EE for lightning as well as fire if I use it with a fire skill?
hi, can "socketed gems supported by minion dmg lvl X" elder mod on helmet be stacks with a socketed awakened minion dmg ?
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venjenz0531 wrote:
Question on Elemental Equilibrium, and apologies if it has already been asked and answered in the last 835 pages:

I know minions do not proc EE, but if I am using Wrath to add lightning damage to the zombies and skeletons, Wrath also gives MY attacks lightning damage. If I then use a fie skill (Armageddon Brand or Holy Flame Totem, for example), is Wrath adding lightning to those attacks from me, and thus giving mobs +25% lightning resist?

In my gear, I found two items that add lightning damage to attacks, and I need to cleanse those to make proper use of EE, but the question on Wrath still stands. Is that lightning damage it is giving me proc'ing EE for lightning as well as fire if I use it with a fire skill?


Wrath and those 2 mods on your gear add dmg to attacks, none of your spells count as attacks.
You can easily test this when you hover over a metamorph or another longer living enemy and check if it says "vulnerable to lightning dmg" or not (after using arma brand).
Last edited by ElCatti#2529 on Jan 24, 2020, 4:46:32 PM
Wouldn't Avatar of fire with storm brand better than this awful arma brand? :<
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kayella wrote:
I have some tweaks to the test build for W&S / EB & MoM.

Wand & Shield / EB & MoM

This version of W&S uses a modified EB & MoM tree from the PoH build.
It combines the tankiness of W&S life with increased DPS from PoH's EB/MoM tree.
I want to add this to the frost page, so I am looking for feedback on this build version.


PoB
https://pastebin.com/upvX20ii


PoB Numbers
1.2M per spectre for mapping (Bone Offering - 70/55 block, Feeding Frenzy)
2.7M per spectre for bossing (Flesh Offering,frenzy charges, Conc Effect)
6.2k life / 2.3k ES
378 life regen
844 life recover on block
118 ES recover on block
Perma phasing from watchers eye/haste combo
Up to 4000 life/4000 es recovery every 5s from helmet (Feast of Flesh)


How to convert from W&S life
You will need to buy:
About 60 regret orbs to change passive tree
Devouring Diadem
Unset Ring

How to convert from PoH / EB & MoM
About 7 regret orbs
trigger wand and shaper shield

Examle Gear

Mainhand W&S
I use this for general mapping. Bone Offering here.


Optional Offhand W&S
I use this against Endgame bosses. Their attacks are telegraphed and easy to dodge. Flesh Offering and Victario's to generate frenzy charges.

Spell cascade is used to create 10 corpses for Feast of Flesh (see below).


Can swap FF for Conc Effect against Endgame bosses:



Devouring Diadem has reduced mana reserve, so we can run 2 auras + skitters. It also has feast of flesh which consumes corpses to recover life and ES. 400life/400 ES per corpse. This is why spell cascade is in the trigger wand.






Watcher's Eyes with Phasing/Haste gives permanent phasing


Build Notes
This is a snap shot of my own character. I have Awakened gems, but if you can't afford them, just use normal versions.
I recommend Awakened Spell Echo as the main upgrade.

The mainhand wand & shield is for maximum tankiness.
It has Bone offering on trigger and a shaper shield with regain life & regain es on block.

The offhand wand & shield is a high DPS option that can be used against most bosses (their attacks are easy to manually dodge!)
It has Flesh offering on trigger and uses Victario's Charity.

Turn on 'minions use frenzy changes' to see the max DPS with offhand.

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Elemental Army: exposure not coded into PoB.
Enemy lightning resistance set to -10% in configuration.

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Skitterbot shock (18% for 20/20 gem) is not automatically calculated.
Shock manually set to 18% in configuration (this only works for Localidentity1 PoB)

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Unending Hunger has been modified to add these two:

1. Awakened Spell Echo has 19% chance to deal double damage. This is not calculated by PoB.
Added:
Minions have 9% chance to deal double damage

2. AG's equipment is not automatically added to the calculation.
Added (AG with Dying Bearth staff):
18% increased Effect of your Curses
Nearby allies gain 18% increased Damage
18% increased Effect of Non-Curse Auras from your Skills


Devouring Diadem: Feast of Flesh
Consumes up to 10 corpses
Gain 400 Life per corpse Consumed
Gain 200 Mana per corpse Consumed
Gain 400 Energy Shield per corpse Consumed
This Skill is Triggered by the Item granting it
You cannot Cast this Spell directly


Why wouldn't you use a ES shield ?
also what about lethal pride timeless jewel - Kiloava - doubles block, and halves blocked damage.
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EchecTorturé wrote:
Wouldn't Avatar of fire with storm brand better than this awful arma brand? :<




Storm Brand hits every 0.6s vs every 0.8s for AB.
Storm Brand takes 0.75s to cast vs 0.4s for AB.

You only need to hit once to proc EE.

AB has more visual clutter than SB. Is that worth 2 passive points?
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You can get 75/75 spell block with a few points

https://i.imgur.com/H4sBJIm.jpg

using the lethal pride timeless jewel.

ok so i made a few changes-

In my shield i have shield charge and fortify, plus summon vaal skeletons

So basically i run around shield charging and casting skeletons everywhere, and the wand procs all the gems.

With bone offering and timeless jewel i'm always on 75/75 block/spell block, without using a Rumi's - cause i'm lazy
Last edited by pitty#6952 on Jan 25, 2020, 2:10:18 AM
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kayella wrote:
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EchecTorturé wrote:
Wouldn't Avatar of fire with storm brand better than this awful arma brand? :<




Storm Brand hits every 0.6s vs every 0.8s for AB.
Storm Brand takes 0.75s to cast vs 0.4s for AB.

You only need to hit once to proc EE.

AB has more visual clutter than SB. Is that worth 2 passive points?


My main issue with Arma is the lil delay before it pops in the beginning, so yeah idk, maybe it's just a personnal preference
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pitty wrote:

Why wouldn't you use a ES shield ?
also what about lethal pride timeless jewel - Kiloava - doubles block, and halves blocked damage.


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pitty wrote:
You can get 75/75 spell block with a few points

https://i.imgur.com/H4sBJIm.jpg

using the lethal pride timeless jewel.

ok so i made a few changes-

In my shield i have shield charge and fortify, plus summon vaal skeletons

So basically i run around shield charging and casting skeletons everywhere, and the wand procs all the gems.

With bone offering and timeless jewel i'm always on 75/75 block/spell block, without using a Rumi's - cause i'm lazy


Double recovery shields are rare, so I just used what I could get. I think a life-based shield would be the best option since life goes towards ES as well.

I've been interested in using kiloava timeless jewel, but haven't gotten round to it yet. I do agree that having 75/75 without a flask is really good. Or if we can get 75/75 without Bone Offering, that would be even better!

My main concern is the 50% of the damage going through. Does the recovery and damage mitigation reduce it enough?

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I ended up buying a jewel and I'm testing it out now.

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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Jan 25, 2020, 7:47:50 AM
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venjenz0531 wrote:

In my gear, I found two items that add lightning damage to attacks, and I need to cleanse those to make proper use of EE


Spell are not 'attack', so everything is OK!

If you look at my gear, I also have 'lightning to attack' on a ring:


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