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So I just made a Convoking that got a +1 all minion skill gems, 29% minion life, and 30% minion move speed.

But I have one on already that has 62% minion dmg, 25% move speed, and 17% attack AND cast speed.

Am I right thinking the one without +1 all is better?
Hey,

Im currently 89 using this build, almost same as yours. Any idea why my spectres die everytime im fighting a boss. I have over 10ex gear and i have the node that gives minion life + im using one jewel that gives life leech for minions.
Is there something important i have forgotten that keeps em alive. I can run t16 maps but its so slow cause i need to revive my spectres after every map.

Thanks for your time.
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kayella wrote:
I have some tweaks to the test build for W&S / EB & MoM.

Wand & Shield / EB & MoM

This version of W&S uses a modified EB & MoM tree from the PoH build.
It combines the tankiness of W&S life with increased DPS from PoH's EB/MoM tree.
I want to add this to the frost page, so I am looking for feedback on this build version.


PoB
https://pastebin.com/upvX20ii


PoB Numbers
1.2M per spectre for mapping (Bone Offering - 70/55 block, Feeding Frenzy)
2.7M per spectre for bossing (Flesh Offering,frenzy charges, Conc Effect)
6.2k life / 2.3k ES
378 life regen
844 life recover on block
118 ES recover on block
Perma phasing from watchers eye/haste combo
Up to 4000 life/4000 es recovery every 5s from helmet (Feast of Flesh)


How to convert from W&S life
You will need to buy:
About 60 regret orbs to change passive tree
Devouring Diadem
Unset Ring

How to convert from PoH / EB & MoM
About 7 regret orbs
trigger wand and shaper shield

Examle Gear

Mainhand W&S
I use this for general mapping. Bone Offering here.


Optional Offhand W&S
I use this against Endgame bosses. Their attacks are telegraphed and easy to dodge. Flesh Offering and Victario's to generate frenzy charges.

Spell cascade is used to create 10 corpses for Feast of Flesh (see below).


Can swap FF for Conc Effect against Endgame bosses:



Devouring Diadem has reduced mana reserve, so we can run 2 auras + skitters. It also has feast of flesh which consumes corpses to recover life and ES. 400life/400 ES per corpse. This is why spell cascade is in the trigger wand.






Watcher's Eyes with Phasing/Haste gives permanent phasing


Build Notes
This is a snap shot of my own character. I have Awakened gems, but if you can't afford them, just use normal versions.
I recommend Awakened Spell Echo as the main upgrade.

The mainhand wand & shield is for maximum tankiness.
It has Bone offering on trigger and a shaper shield with regain life & regain es on block.

The offhand wand & shield is a high DPS option that can be used against most bosses (their attacks are easy to manually dodge!)
It has Flesh offering on trigger and uses Victario's Charity.

Turn on 'minions use frenzy changes' to see the max DPS with offhand.

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Elemental Army: exposure not coded into PoB.
Enemy lightning resistance set to -10% in configuration.

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Skitterbot shock (18% for 20/20 gem) is not automatically calculated.
Shock manually set to 18% in configuration (this only works for Localidentity1 PoB)

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Unending Hunger has been modified to add these two:

1. Awakened Spell Echo has 19% chance to deal double damage. This is not calculated by PoB.
Added:
Minions have 9% chance to deal double damage

2. AG's equipment is not automatically added to the calculation.
Added (AG with Dying Bearth staff):
18% increased Effect of your Curses
Nearby allies gain 18% increased Damage
18% increased Effect of Non-Curse Auras from your Skills


Devouring Diadem: Feast of Flesh
Consumes up to 10 corpses
Gain 400 Life per corpse Consumed
Gain 200 Mana per corpse Consumed
Gain 400 Energy Shield per corpse Consumed
This Skill is Triggered by the Item granting it
You cannot Cast this Spell directly
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Mionix wrote:
Hey,

Im currently 89 using this build, almost same as yours. Any idea why my spectres die everytime im fighting a boss. I have over 10ex gear and i have the node that gives minion life + im using one jewel that gives life leech for minions.
Is there something important i have forgotten that keeps em alive. I can run t16 maps but its so slow cause i need to revive my spectres after every map.

Thanks for your time.


Hi, i took a look at your profile and noticed a few things:

-you are missing the Indomitable Army nodes for defense(next to Elemental Equilibrum)
-you are missing Sacrifice, Spiritual Command and Gravepact for offense (no anointment on neck for a free node, gravepact or ravenous horde are good to anoint)
-go for offense for minions and life for yourself on jewels (increased damage after minion skill, cast speed for minions and one with taunt for minions)
-get rid of careful planning and take an offense jewel instead (if you are short on dex go for it on gear/enchant or use a 30dex passive)
-do you have spell echo in your chest? chest has one missing gem in profile, not sure if not viewed or not socketed
(-you could sell your minion damage in chest with a Gemcutter's Prism to a vendor which will get you a level 1 with 20%)
-there is more room to improve your passivetree, take a look at Kayella's guide




Last edited by Lestain#4261 on Jan 22, 2020, 4:13:55 PM
I don't generally have a problem with most bosses however, Al-Hezmin, the Hunter kills my spectres every single time. Is there a trick to this? Hardest fight in the game so far for me with this awesome build!

Being a guardian I obviously had to make a few changes but if you compare my POB with the one provided by Kayella i'm really happy how it all came together. Similar DPS and Life but I gain 1k more ES being a Guardian which is pretty cool. Any tips on min maxing my build is appreciated as I'm still pretty new!

https://pastebin.com/aWqKAqsq

Kayella's Pledge MOM / EB POB for reference: https://pastebin.com/mkEh23nU
Last edited by Brulander87#3123 on Jan 22, 2020, 10:46:15 PM
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Brulander87 wrote:
I don't generally have a problem with most bosses however, Al-Hezmin, the Hunter kills my spectres every single time. Is there a trick to this? Hardest fight in the game so far for me with this awesome build!

Being a guardian I obviously had to make a few changes but if you compare my POB with the one provided by Kayella i'm really happy how it all came together. Similar DPS and Life but I gain 1k more ES being a Guardian which is pretty cool. Any tips on min maxing my build is appreciated as I'm still pretty new!

https://pastebin.com/aWqKAqsq

Kayella's Pledge MOM / EB POB for reference: https://pastebin.com/mkEh23nU


I had problems with him too until I realized that kiting him and staying at range is the problem. Once I just stuck on top of him and killed him fast my spectres never died again.
Last edited by Vaildez#6753 on Jan 23, 2020, 8:53:08 AM
Since DPS has never been a problem with PoH I started going far more defensive... I switched to flesh and stone and reallocated the mana reservation points into life nodes. Sitting at 8300 Life and 2100 ES now and it's certainly been noticeable for me.
Last edited by Vaildez#6753 on Jan 23, 2020, 9:18:19 AM
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Vaildez wrote:
Since DPS has never been a problem with PoH I started going far more defensive... I switched to flesh and stone and reallocated the mana reservation points into life nodes. Sitting at 8300 Life and 2100 ES now and it's certainly been noticeable for me.


I like how you have changed the tree. 10.3k is very nice.

I noticed you're using a low level clarity but you don't have a clarity/ES watchers eye. If you drop the clarity you can replace it with Dread Banner.



That will give you "nearby enemies have 20% less accuracy" for another level of defence.
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Brulander87 wrote:
I don't generally have a problem with most bosses however, Al-Hezmin, the Hunter kills my spectres every single time. Is there a trick to this? Hardest fight in the game so far for me with this awesome build!

Being a guardian I obviously had to make a few changes but if you compare my POB with the one provided by Kayella i'm really happy how it all came together. Similar DPS and Life but I gain 1k more ES being a Guardian which is pretty cool. Any tips on min maxing my build is appreciated as I'm still pretty new!

https://pastebin.com/aWqKAqsq

Kayella's Pledge MOM / EB POB for reference: https://pastebin.com/mkEh23nU


I'm not too familiar with Guardians, but I don't think Harmony of Purpose give changes to minions.

Hunter does chaos damage, so you need a lot of chaos res. Spectres don't really get chaos res, so they're in a bit of trouble. The best you can do is stay close to him and burn him as fast as possible. And try your best to keep your minions out of the middle.


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kayella wrote:
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Vaildez wrote:
Since DPS has never been a problem with PoH I started going far more defensive... I switched to flesh and stone and reallocated the mana reservation points into life nodes. Sitting at 8300 Life and 2100 ES now and it's certainly been noticeable for me.


I like how you have changed the tree. 10.3k is very nice.

I noticed you're using a low level clarity but you don't have a clarity/ES watchers eye. If you drop the clarity you can replace it with Dread Banner.



That will give you "nearby enemies have 20% less accuracy" for another level of defence.


Thanks! Yeah I was thinking about that too. The two items on my shopping list are the watchers eye you mention and a stygian vise with %life but those are both pretty pricey right now.

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