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spoobg wrote:

Made a slight gear upgrade, switched Tabula at last and got some jewelry with min dmg :)

It seems like true what many people already said, it feels like Summoners 2.0 League :)

How important are all these minion damage rolls on your gear? They are completely disregarded in the guide.

I just saw this Sirius fight, HC summoner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ301zyx5JQ

Doesnt really looks so impossible as someone here said? He was pretty close.

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evilmindcz wrote:

I just saw this Sirius fight, HC summoner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ301zyx5JQ

Doesnt really looks so impossible as someone here said? He was pretty close.

His minions must be hella tanky, probably won't be able to do it with slave drivers for a while. We'll need the Ape setup with zombies and skellies dealing the damage.

I particularly hate how hard it is to even find the boss in the room. As we can see in the video, most of the pets dying (and even his own death) was from walking around.

Why no Righteous Army/Spiritual Aid/Redemption?

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Samodin wrote:

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evilmindcz wrote:

I just saw this Sirius fight, HC summoner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ301zyx5JQ

Doesnt really looks so impossible as someone here said? He was pretty close.

His minions must be hella tanky, probably won't be able to do it with slave drivers for a while. We'll need the Ape setup with zombies and skellies dealing the damage.

I particularly hate how hard it is to even find the boss in the room. As we can see in the video, most of the pets dying (and even his own death) was from walking around.

I dont know the fight yet, still hunting my stones, but this looks more like his summones are obedient. The key is probably to force them stay close to you, SD in aggresive mode are running around like crazy, and this is what makes them die... So either different spectres, or defensive gem setup?

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r00ting wrote:

i have no idea that's why i asked, atm i can't change the ring so i can't even test it.

Anyways i would only empirically verify, so we can't be sure so i need to trust people more knowledgeable then me.

Thank you for answer btw!

Damage to attacks on your gear doesnt matter (not sure if shield charge counts as an attack), you dont want dmg to spells.
And you dont have to switch gear to check if it works, apply Arma Brand to any mob and you should see "vulnerable to lightning" under its name.

BTW, what about sacrificing some minion damage nodes and instead getting a +1 to curses and using conductivity (something else if you are not using lightning based spectres) with curse on hit armageddon brand as well?

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evilmindcz wrote:

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Samodin wrote:

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evilmindcz wrote:

I just saw this Sirius fight, HC summoner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ301zyx5JQ

Doesnt really looks so impossible as someone here said? He was pretty close.

His minions must be hella tanky, probably won't be able to do it with slave drivers for a while. We'll need the Ape setup with zombies and skellies dealing the damage.

I particularly hate how hard it is to even find the boss in the room. As we can see in the video, most of the pets dying (and even his own death) was from walking around.

I dont know the fight yet, still hunting my stones, but this looks more like his summones are obedient. The key is probably to force them stay close to you, SD in aggresive mode are running around like crazy, and this is what makes them die... So either different spectres, or defensive gem setup?

Slave drives just keep killing themselves non stop in void zones, can confirm :D

Next time will try with lightning risen vaal advocates, default movement logic and 400% more hp might help

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r00ting wrote:

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RawDamage wrote:

But why? This is attack damage, not spell damage?
As I understand only using shield charge can break EE.
What do you think?

i have no idea that's why i asked, atm i can't change the ring so i can't even test it.

Anyways i would only empirically verify, so we can't be sure so i need to trust people more knowledgeable then me.

Thank you for answer btw!

Well, tbh, I remember from when I did my first RF build ages ago that for EE I couldn't have any "adds x to x fire damage to attacks" but it is possible that it was for shield charge only and that it doesn't matter for spells. So now you have me questioning myself lol. I know for sure if that damage applies to spells it will mess with your EE. But if it doesn't specify spells, maybe you're ok? I'm assuming you never auto attack lol

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rus9384 wrote:

BTW, what about sacrificing some minion damage nodes and instead getting a +1 to curses and using conductivity (something else if you are not using lightning based spectres) with curse on hit armageddon brand as well?

The thing with curses is their reduced effectiveness against bosses.

As of 3.8, against normal map bosses, curses were only 67% effective. Against Elder, Shaper and both sets of guardians, they were only 34 % effective.

This is why many of us didn't run a 2nd curse in 3.8 and why I would advise against it in 3.9. Whether you gear or spec for it on the tree, it's a lot of work for only 34% effectiveness. Trash mobs dies fast enough and barely get cursed before they blow up anyway.

Now, I can't speak to metamorph bosses or the Awakener and the other new bosses, and I'm not sure who would know, but even against them, I'm not sure it would be worth the effort to get a 2nd curse.

Others may disagree, but that's my $0.02 anyway.