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willianvon wrote:

I will try to adjust the build then to make it more defensive, by the way, in your pastebin why did u put -19 light res on shaper? I was curious, in the budget also was -10 on it, where does this come from?

The additional 9% are from the AG wearing a helmet with -9% lightning res.

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Samodin wrote:

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Awakened Curse on Hit has +1 curse effect now, i think that sounds like must have... :-)

Holy cow I didn't see that, that's huge.
Unset ring back to make room for flame dash?

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I think the ASE gem is the most interesting with its 19% chance to do double damage. When it is used with the PoH build the final repeat will do 105% more damage with a 19% chance to double - basically an extra 100% more modifier on top! If you look at the gem configuration, I don't include Ele Focus, so our SDs will can apply big shock values!

Does summon skitterbots still have a value in the PoH setup then?

Once I get my hand on the Awakened Gems, I'll update both builds since I'll need to link them to the guide. Double curse adds more customisation options to the build. People could choose 2x res debuff, or 1 res debuff and enfeeble/temp chains. And that means Unset will make a comeback! (I can never get rid of them...)

I was thinking that it might be worthwhile to drop Skitters and add Aspect of the Spider. The damage boost from spider webs is about the same. They also apply hinder at about the same radius as curses, which is actually better than Skitters. AotS will also free up 1 passive point (reduced mana reserve next to Sovereignty).

Would you still recommend Slave Drivers #1 if I didn't want to gems swap?

I think you mentioned in your update that you would just use Conc full-time, but not sure it that's true with Drivers specifically because of melee range (of if you recommend another spectre entirely in 3.9).

I just absolutely hate hot-swapping gems mid-map/fight/whatever, so I'm wondering what you think the best (4/5/6) links would be and which spectre you would choose for a general end-game (maps, bosses, etc...) without switching stuff around all the time.

Should mention that I play SSF exclusively, so would probably going with W/S variant and I assume mostly crafted gear at the start.

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rurt wrote:

I'm planning to use this as my starter. Never played summoner, and have no experience with Spectres, but I'm confident in it because it's a great and detailed build.

A few minor questions:

- I'm thinking on going SSF and also can't be bothered to deal with Animated Guardian; my question is: how much do I gimp myself by *not* using AG?

- what are possible replacements for AG, if it's even viable to not run it?

- are 3 spectres + SSF gear enough to reliably run red maps? it might take a while to get the 3 prereqs: 21/20 gem, +1 wand, +1 boots (let alone Empower)

- if I absolutely have to suffer through an ele reflect map (i.e. for Atlas progression), what's the best way to do it? get a phys Spectre (which one would do?) or maybe swap to skellies or sth, as even a 4link might do in a pinch?

- Bone Barrier shares its cooldown with IC... do I keep BB up most of the time, is dropping IC on the table (e.g. for some more utility)?

Thank you for asking the questions. It helps me update the FAQ section.

You should do perfectly fine without an AG. A lot of people deactivate their AG in very dangerous content. You can use Zombies in its place. The zombie nerf in 3.9 might not be terribly bad. If people end up using them and reporting back that they are fine, I can put them back into the build.

Yes, 3 spectres in less than perfect gear is fine. I used a Berserker Summoner in the last Flashback league. Killed Shaper using 3 Fire-Eaters (much weaker than Slave Drivers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7l99YXFilc

You will have to switch to a different spectre. There is one called Crazed Driver which is the physical version of Slave Drivers. Its damage is very, very low, so it may take a while to kill bosses.

Yes, Bone Armour shares the cooldown. I recommend CWDT + IC because it doesn't require any button pressing (make the build easier to play). If you are happy to press a button for the guard skill, you can drop CWDT + IC.

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NeoLearner wrote:

3) 5 link Vis Mortis was less damage than a 6 link/Tabula. You can confirm in POB. That might be different now, as without a level 21 Spectre gem you would lose a Spectre in the W&S build, and would gain one with Vis Mortis

Am I missing something or is the PoE wiki wrong as vis mortis seems to not give +1 to spectres?

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Sadly, Vis Mortis is not worth using now. It's especially bad because 15% gain extra chaos doesn't make up for the 20% reduced life.

Hi
Can you update the trees in POB to 3.9? Thanks alot

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NeoLearner wrote:

Due to this PoH likely loses a potential awakened gem slot, likely not runnning Awakened Elemental Focus. I do believe that it will still have higher DPS in the end and I'll still be running a PoH build.

I am guessing that the new exalts gems can craft +1 INT gem on amulet because we've seen examples of crafted +1 DEX. So, a crafted delve amulet with +1 INT will get us to RS25 without the need for Empower. Unfortunately this means no Aul's Haste (free Haste).

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nexxen666 wrote:

First, thanks for the guide. I am planning on running this as my starter for 3.9 (first time spectre).

1. Would you say it's a feasible goal to go wand+shield -> PoH+EB+MoM once we reach endgame? I like just having one build for the league, and being able to really push this build would be a big plus. But i'm not sure how smilair they are, besides having to get a bunch of regrets. :)

This is the normal progression because the PoH build needs two uniques: Pledge of Hands and Devouring Diadem. They generally don't hit the market until the second week and are generally not cheap.


I can modify the Pledge build's PoB with levelling trees if people want that. That way you can just build for PoH from the beginning. I can't guarantee that you won't die in levelling, though!

The EB / MoM tree actually has more DPS with W&S than PoH because you can get Necro Aegis at the cost of 2 passive points. Then you run Victario's Charity for frenzy/power charges.

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superkegs wrote:

Would you still recommend Slave Drivers #1 if I didn't want to gems swap?

I think you mentioned in your update that you would just use Conc full-time, but not sure it that's true with Drivers specifically because of melee range (of if you recommend another spectre entirely in 3.9).

I just absolutely hate hot-swapping gems mid-map/fight/whatever, so I'm wondering what you think the best (4/5/6) links would be and which spectre you would choose for a general end-game (maps, bosses, etc...) without switching stuff around all the time.

Should mention that I play SSF exclusively, so would probably going with W/S variant and I assume mostly crafted gear at the start.

Yes, SD are #1 for no gem swap. Their spell is already an aoe which gives them decent map clearing and they hit very hard. You can see how I run straight into the boss room with SDs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaD5slUdtyE&t=543s

The other spectres shoot a single projectile, so with GMP they are very good for clearing (will offscreen clear). But, it has a '26% reduced damage', so a white socket + gem swap is advisable for endgame bossing.

4L: RS, SE, MD, DM
5L: RS, SE, MD, DM, EF
5L: RS, SE, MD, DM, EF, CE

You could substitute Inc AOE for CE if you have a 6L. There should be more than enough DPS without the 'more damage' from Conc.

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Skykisser83 wrote:

Hi
Can you update the trees in POB to 3.9? Thanks alot

Thanks for letting me know there was a mistake!

I've updated the PoB links. I think the 3.9 tree was added to PoB after I updated the build.