[Filter] Please allow us to hide Shaper/Elder items

Much to my surprise, I was told by GGG that this is not a bug, so I am posting about the issue in the feedback and suggestions forums instead.

In my opinion it doesn't make logical sense for Shaper and Elder items to be exempt from normal item filter rules. I don't know what the intended purpose of this is, but if I had to guess I'd say it's either:

A: To prevent people with old filter versions from accidentally hiding Shaper/Elder rares.

B: An obnoxious way to try to slow down the clear speed meta by forcing efficient players to wade through seas of bad, bulky rares.

C: Some hacky workaround to solve a technical issue that they didn't have time to fix before release and then later didn't prioritize fixing properly.


Out of all the Elder and Shaper items I've picked up, only a tiny fraction of them have been worth the time and effort. This is consistent with how rares work in general. Therefor I would really like to have the option to hide some of them, and only show the smaller ones when I'm running a fast build and farming with quantity gear.
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carkasjak wrote:


B: An obnoxious way to try to slow down the clear speed meta by forcing efficient players to wade through seas of bad, bulky rares.



How many could you possibly be getting to be a problem? LOL
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Cogburn wrote:
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carkasjak wrote:


B: An obnoxious way to try to slow down the clear speed meta by forcing efficient players to wade through seas of bad, bulky rares.



How many could you possibly be getting to be a problem? LOL


Enough for it to be annoying to be unable to hide them for no good reason. I wouldn't have made this thread otherwise.
Last edited by carkasjak#7673 on Jan 22, 2018, 2:08:08 AM
You at most get 1/2 dozen or so on average per map, maybe slightly more if your fully sextant with breaches.

That being said they aren't filtered out because all intents and purposes they are similar to uniques. Furthermore, quite a few bases actually hold value.

You can just as easily ignore them, but maybe its worth exploring a way to hide them, but I dont think it is that big of an issue.


I wasn't usually picking up rare claws, despite them being popular right now and I got this:



Its obviously sellable/useable.


Certain 2 handed bases are useless and I can feel fine leaving them on the ground, as well as some chest, but the point still stands that you can ignore them if you wish then.

I also was trying to chance/scour this for a belly and I clearly didn't get a belly, but its obviously good enough to not roll over.



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goetzjam wrote:

That being said they aren't filtered out because all intents and purposes they are similar to uniques.


And yet, GGG has allowed Item Filters to hide Uniques just fine :| doesn't that then make this a vote in favour of enabling the option per carkasjak's original post?
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goetzjam wrote:
You at most get 1/2 dozen or so on average per map, maybe slightly more if your fully sextant with breaches.

That being said they aren't filtered out because all intents and purposes they are similar to uniques. Furthermore, quite a few bases actually hold value.

You can just as easily ignore them, but maybe its worth exploring a way to hide them, but I dont think it is that big of an issue.


I wasn't usually picking up rare claws, despite them being popular right now and I got this:



Its obviously sellable/useable.


Certain 2 handed bases are useless and I can feel fine leaving them on the ground, as well as some chest, but the point still stands that you can ignore them if you wish then.

I also was trying to chance/scour this for a belly and I clearly didn't get a belly, but its obviously good enough to not roll over.





You got lucky, grats. Most elder/shaper items are nowhere near as good as that claw. These items are the same as other rares in that regard. Most of the ones you find will be bad, and personally I get mentally fatigued very quickly if I have to look at a lot of rares every map.

Early in the league I collected a stash tab full of Elder rares and one full of Shaper rares. I recently put both of these on 10c buyout, and have not gotten a single whisper for any of them. At the current stage of the league, I don't really want to bother with trades for less than 10c since I am trying to grind maps with fewer interruptions from trading.

I see no valid reason for them to have a special exception in item filters that specifically prohibits them from being hidden against the player's will. There are no other such exceptions as far as I know.

Most importantly: What I am asking for is just the freedom to hide what I want in my filter, and it wouldn't affect your ability to keep showing them in yours.
why does people wish to hide shaped and elder items? don't get it at all. they are rare enough, getting one every now and then shouldn't be a bother
identify and drop them again if you don't want them
I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG
Last edited by VoidExilePoE#0366 on Jan 22, 2018, 5:44:08 AM
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VoidExilePoE wrote:
why does people wish to hide shaped and elder items? don't get it at all. they are rare enough, getting one every now and then shouldn't be a bother
identify and drop them again if you don't want them


I already explained why I want to in my posts in this thread, but here's a hypothetical example that might be easier to understand:

Let's say you're playing SSF. You only want to play one or two different characters this league, and your stash space is limited. You customize your filter so that it doesn't show any weapons or armor types that neither of your characters will use, since those items will be 100% guaranteed to be worthless to you.

Personally I would not hide ALL shaper/elder rares. I only wish to customize my filter to optimize my performance like I've already done for regular rares. I would show certain bases above certain itemlevel thresholds that would be more valuable than the rest, etc. Try to picture a universe where everyone isn't exactly like you. People's playstyles are different, and that's why I think FREEDOM to make your own choices is very important for item filters.

EDIT: I should specify that before 3.1 we did have COMPLETE freedom to hide what we wanted in our filters, but now we do not. It feels very bad to have your freedoms taken away.
Last edited by carkasjak#7673 on Jan 22, 2018, 6:30:36 AM
goetzjam i wouldn't buy that claw for more than 2ex personally, but i suppose looking at it more makes me see true value in it. i would much rather have more attack speed and have some crit.
ele claws seem popular now days... not sure why
I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG
Last edited by VoidExilePoE#0366 on Jan 22, 2018, 7:47:39 AM
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carkasjak wrote:
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VoidExilePoE wrote:
why does people wish to hide shaped and elder items? don't get it at all. they are rare enough, getting one every now and then shouldn't be a bother
identify and drop them again if you don't want them


I already explained why I want to in my posts in this thread, but here's a hypothetical example that might be easier to understand:

Let's say you're playing SSF. You only want to play one or two different characters this league, and your stash space is limited. You customize your filter so that it doesn't show any weapons or armor types that neither of your characters will use, since those items will be 100% guaranteed to be worthless to you.

Personally I would not hide ALL shaper/elder rares. I only wish to customize my filter to optimize my performance like I've already done for regular rares. I would show certain bases above certain itemlevel thresholds that would be more valuable than the rest, etc. Try to picture a universe where everyone isn't exactly like you. People's playstyles are different, and that's why I think FREEDOM to make your own choices is very important for item filters.

EDIT: I should specify that before 3.1 we did have COMPLETE freedom to hide what we wanted in our filters, but now we do not. It feels very bad to have your freedoms taken away.
good points, i play my own way, but i'm willing to try understand what others think and do and why
I usually do not read popular posts again after i made a comment on it, unless it's one of my own. I wish to have a Black robed Grim Reaper micro set in game one day, grant my wish, GGG

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