Female Armour

I don't think GGG should be making player requested armor like female armor, plate armor, etc but instead continue their design of armor no one asked for like that hat with 2 decap hands at the side, various weird looking bone helms, executor armor, scarwcrow armors.

I mean why would anyone want to look like Ned Stark, Conan, Xena, shield maiden from Vikings, Aragon from LOTR, or high elves when you can look like scarecrow and executor, or the guy wearing the hat with 2 decap hands.

I really likes these wierdo armors, as everytime GGG introduce them, I said, thanks god, I can save my money other stuff like petrol or something.s
Last edited by KiadawP#5072 on Dec 18, 2017, 6:35:46 AM
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Sixtysan wrote:

No they couldn't be worn by man because they are designed with female body type and physic in mind. You know, armour has to fit, to be usable. Strapping on yourself 3x bigger size of clothing is even worse than running but naked.


Actually, armors weren't that tight fit as you think. If they were, people wouldn't be able to move in them. Clothing is flexible, metal not so much.
For that very reason there was no point in making armor that fits. There are always some space that was filled with gambeson.

And if you are talking about armor being the size of the character - we already have that. Scion doesn't wear the same size armor as marauder, and so on.

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Also, a leather armour is fantasy non-sense. The amount of leather you would need to stop sharp blade or mitigate blunt impact is quite absurd.


This is, of course, false.

I'm no expert in medieval weaponry and armor, but I've watched enough Skallagrim to know as much ;-)

@KiadawP in point. I wish we had some more cool looking, but fairly standard armors instead of those hyper-fantasies.
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I actually visited many medieval castles & mueseums.

You wouldn't believed the size of some of the weapons I seen. I seen Zweihänder (2-handers) that are over 2m in length.

the actual palte armor in combat are actually far thinner & made of more pieces than people think.

Also the armor can't be loose, & problem of mobilitiy is solved by using chainmail or frabic at major joints.

Obviously, armor can't be skin tight, but they are not make everyone looks like elephant too.
Last edited by KiadawP#5072 on Dec 18, 2017, 7:31:38 AM
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Also, a leather armour is fantasy non-sense. The amount of leather you would need to stop sharp blade or mitigate blunt impact is quite absurd.


Leather armour existed, it just wasn't popular. STUDDED leather is what you often see in games and movies that was never a thing. Especially if you think a few studs here and there are going to save you from the blow of an axe or sword where "normal" leather wouldn't.

High quality hardened leather armour is actually quite durable, and quite heavy. You wouldn't exactly be moving around like Ezio Auditore in it. Chainmail is a much better alternative, both in terms of durability and mobility, and on the low-end surprisingly cheaper to produce as well.

Historically that was definitely not the case though. And that's why gambeson was so popular. Just you know, what we use TODAY to stop bullets, many layers of cloth.
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Last edited by Xavathos#5130 on Dec 18, 2017, 8:35:56 AM
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KiadawP wrote:
I don't think GGG should be making player requested armor like female armor, plate armor, etc but instead continue their design of armor no one asked for like that hat with 2 decap hands at the side, various weird looking bone helms, executor armor, scarwcrow armors.

I mean why would anyone want to look like Ned Stark, Conan, Xena, shield maiden from Vikings, Aragon from LOTR, or high elves when you can look like scarecrow and executor, or the guy wearing the hat with 2 decap hands.

I really likes these wierdo armors, as everytime GGG introduce them, I said, thanks god, I can save my money other stuff like petrol or something.s


ayyyyy - u won this thread

i saw a guy walking around with deer antlers on his head - I told him, "I'm sorry that you won the worst hat from the twitch promotion"

and to my surprise he said, "wot, this is the best hat in the game"

he actually bought it
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BearCares wrote:
i saw a guy walking around with deer antlers on his head - I told him, "I'm sorry that you won the worst hat from the twitch promotion"

and to my surprise he said, "wot, this is the best hat in the game"

Well he's right, the only reason we're using horse masks in RL is because antlers would prevent you from keeping a deer mask in your pocket at all times. In all other aspects, a deer mask is plain better.
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BearCares wrote:
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KiadawP wrote:
I don't think GGG should be making player requested armor like female armor, plate armor, etc but instead continue their design of armor no one asked for like that hat with 2 decap hands at the side, various weird looking bone helms, executor armor, scarwcrow armors.

I mean why would anyone want to look like Ned Stark, Conan, Xena, shield maiden from Vikings, Aragon from LOTR, or high elves when you can look like scarecrow and executor, or the guy wearing the hat with 2 decap hands.

I really likes these wierdo armors, as everytime GGG introduce them, I said, thanks god, I can save my money other stuff like petrol or something.s


ayyyyy - u won this thread

i saw a guy walking around with deer antlers on his head - I told him, "I'm sorry that you won the worst hat from the twitch promotion"

and to my surprise he said, "wot, this is the best hat in the game"

he actually bought it


And so he should, if he likes it. I've worn a boar head mask on my character for quite some time with the demon king set, looks brutal. One could say I was boared of the helmet that came with it.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
If antlers on helm looks like teh one Hela is wearing, damn if the whole armor looks like Hela from Thor 3, I pay 100bucks

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Sixtysan wrote:
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Perq wrote:
Your Piety example: a very similar outfit could be worn by a man. :V
A coat of that length is not surprising.

Boob armor is dumb, as have been proven countless times.

Also, again, all of the examples could be worn by man. You are not asking for female armors but leather/light armors. I agree with that.

Can't quite see the female armor thingy, tho. Mainly because it makes no sense when you're talking about stuff you are wearing in combat. The fancy stuff is for balls or anime characters (which look hilarious and terrible at the same time).

I dunno, I might be weird, but imo the best looking female characters actually wear armor that isn't overly serialized or modified in a nonsensical way for no reason. Of course, there is a trend to make it so because of horny 16 year olds, but what can you do... :V



I didn't even mention word boob.


...and yet, your example included a plunging neckline showing significant cleavage. This is why people hear "I want moar bewbs" even if you don't say it.

Not just your example here, incidentally: even if you really didn't want them, pretty much every other person out there asking for "female" armor has ruined it for you, because they *do* want "giant boob windows and metal g-strings", so they tainted the request.

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Sixtysan wrote:

No they couldn't be worn by man because they are designed with female body type and physic in mind. You know, armour has to fit, to be usable. Strapping on yourself 3x bigger size of clothing is even worse than running but naked. What i (and many players) ask for, is properly fitted armour, that is designed for human beigns, not Hulk.


You are absolutely wrong about armor design here, though what you see in ... pretty much everything, really, encourages you to believe this.

You see, things like building armor with "breast" shaped things would literally cause it to kill you. You are not wrong that some differences in design are required, but those are vastly less dramatic than most people seem to think.

The other thing to remember is that we are dealing with people who are, uh, rather physically fit. The exiles are not exactly soft, and even the witch is depicted as being fit, healthy, and presumably capable of a non-trivial degree of fisticuffs to survive early, let alone late, in the game.

That leads to bodies that do not look like the "two balloons and a broom" shape that seems so popular in online games:

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Sixtysan wrote:
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Perq wrote:
Your Piety example: a very similar outfit could be worn by a man. :V
A coat of that length is not surprising.

Boob armor is dumb, as have been proven countless times.

Also, again, all of the examples could be worn by man. You are not asking for female armors but leather/light armors. I agree with that.

Can't quite see the female armor thingy, tho. Mainly because it makes no sense when you're talking about stuff you are wearing in combat. The fancy stuff is for balls or anime characters (which look hilarious and terrible at the same time).

I dunno, I might be weird, but imo the best looking female characters actually wear armor that isn't overly serialized or modified in a nonsensical way for no reason. Of course, there is a trend to make it so because of horny 16 year olds, but what can you do... :V



I didn't even mention word boob.


...and yet, your example included a plunging neckline showing significant cleavage. This is why people hear "I want moar bewbs" even if you don't say it.

Not just your example here, incidentally: even if you really didn't want them, pretty much every other person out there asking for "female" armor has ruined it for you, because they *do* want "giant boob windows and metal g-strings", so they tainted the request.

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Sixtysan wrote:

No they couldn't be worn by man because they are designed with female body type and physic in mind. You know, armour has to fit, to be usable. Strapping on yourself 3x bigger size of clothing is even worse than running but naked. What i (and many players) ask for, is properly fitted armour, that is designed for human beigns, not Hulk.


You are absolutely wrong about armor design here, though what you see in ... pretty much everything, really, encourages you to believe this.

You see, things like building armor with "breast" shaped things would literally cause it to kill you. You are not wrong that some differences in design are required, but those are vastly less dramatic than most people seem to think.

The other thing to remember is that we are dealing with people who are, uh, rather physically fit. The exiles are not exactly soft, and even the witch is depicted as being fit, healthy, and presumably capable of a non-trivial degree of fisticuffs to survive early, let alone late, in the game.

That leads to bodies that do not look like the "two balloons and a broom" shape that seems so popular in online games:

Several images, which are completely SFW, just no need to spam the forum










As you can observe, those body shapes don't really lend themselves to dramatically different outfit shapes than men:

Several images, which are completely SFW, just no need to spam the forum










Also worth noting is that plate armor is not really restrictive of movement.

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