ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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Head_Less wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Nobody poisoned Hillary. This is more propaganda nonsense


No shit, the same goes with Putin helping Trump to win.

Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate possible, No Russians helped with that.


Sorry, you stated that incorrectly.

The Mueller report said it was clear that Putin himself directed a systematic and consistent effort to help Trump win the election. That is not debatable. What is debatable is what factor that played in the election versus Hillary being a weak candidate. My guess is that both were important factors.
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
While I agree censorship has mostly targeted the right (and not the far right — it's not as if Richard Spencer and David Duke have been banned) in order to disguise censorship as a partiaan issue, in truth it's not particularly partisan.

Any amount of censorship is bad, and politically biased censorship is even worse.

"Publishers v. Platforms" is not a partisan argument at its core. Regardless of the direction of their bias, they shouldn't be doing it at all. The problem is that once the censorship becomes politically biased, half of Congress (and their own users) become incentivized to keep or increase the censorship.

I'm glad the issue is being pushed now, because it really only gets worse if left unchecked.
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Head_Less wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Nobody poisoned Hillary. This is more propaganda nonsense


No shit, the same goes with Putin helping Trump to win.

Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate possible, No Russians helped with that.


ALL worldwide intelligence agencies agree that Putin ran an attack to assist Trump. Putin himself ADMITTED to doing it when questioned in Helsinki. Stop being lazy.
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Turtledove wrote:
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Head_Less wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:
Nobody poisoned Hillary. This is more propaganda nonsense


No shit, the same goes with Putin helping Trump to win.

Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate possible, No Russians helped with that.


Sorry, you stated that incorrectly.

The Mueller report said it was clear that Putin himself directed a systematic and consistent effort to help Trump win the election. That is not debatable. What is debatable is what factor that played in the election versus Hillary being a weak candidate. My guess is that both were important factors.


The perception of her being weak has a lot to do with the Russian government's attack. That so many feel that way is proof that Putin's efforts to help Trump and damage Hillary was indeed a success.
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The_Impeacher wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
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Head_Less wrote:

No shit, the same goes with Putin helping Trump to win.

Trump won because Hillary was the worst candidate possible, No Russians helped with that.


Sorry, you stated that incorrectly.

The Mueller report said it was clear that Putin himself directed a systematic and consistent effort to help Trump win the election. That is not debatable. What is debatable is what factor that played in the election versus Hillary being a weak candidate. My guess is that both were important factors.


The perception of her being weak has a lot to do with the Russian government's attack. That so many feel that way is proof that Putin's efforts to help Trump and damage Hillary was indeed a success.


Perhaps, I consider her a weak candidate because
1. She got over confident and spent effort trying to expand into red states instead of visiting states she had to win like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin etc. Probably in response to Trump's threats to declare a bogus fixed election and so wanting to run-up-the-numbers.
2. She seemed to try to play it safe and let Trump self destruct instead of aggressively pushing the kitchen table issues.

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Head_less, rereading your post in The_Impeachers response, it dawns on me that perhaps the "that" you refer to was referring to Hillary rather than Trump winning the election. If so then sorry that I misread your post.
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Last edited by Turtledove#4014 on May 25, 2019, 6:57:13 PM
The propaganda attack was certainly enough to change a few thousand people's minds.
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The_Impeacher wrote:


ALL worldwide intelligence agencies agree that Putin ran an attack to assist Trump. Putin himself ADMITTED to doing it when questioned in Helsinki. Stop being lazy.

It's funny how you tell people to stop being lazy and yet you keep on falling for the muh russian collusion lie.
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Turtledove wrote:


Sorry, you stated that incorrectly.

The Mueller report said it was clear that Putin himself directed a systematic and consistent effort to help Trump win the election. That is not debatable. What is debatable is what factor that played in the election versus Hillary being a weak candidate. My guess is that both were important factors.

The Mueller probe found jack shit, Trump knew it for two years, anyone with a brain knew the same and yet all of a sudden the democrats are now turning on Mueller and espouse conspiracy theories.
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The_Impeacher wrote:
The propaganda attack was certainly enough to change a few thousand people's minds.


Agreed, the election was really very close. If just about 77,000 people in the right states had voted for Clinton instead of Trump then Clinton could have won.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
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AldarisGrave wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:


ALL worldwide intelligence agencies agree that Putin ran an attack to assist Trump. Putin himself ADMITTED to doing it when questioned in Helsinki. Stop being lazy.

It's funny how you tell people to stop being lazy and yet you keep on falling for the muh russian collusion lie.
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Turtledove wrote:


Sorry, you stated that incorrectly.

The Mueller report said it was clear that Putin himself directed a systematic and consistent effort to help Trump win the election. That is not debatable. What is debatable is what factor that played in the election versus Hillary being a weak candidate. My guess is that both were important factors.

The Mueller probe found jack shit, Trump knew it for two years, anyone with a brain knew the same and yet all of a sudden the democrats are now turning on Mueller and espouse conspiracy theories.


The Mueller investigation found absolute LOADS of impeachable conduct, but you wouldn't know because you haven't read it due to a love of Putin and laziness.
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Turtledove wrote:
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The_Impeacher wrote:
The propaganda attack was certainly enough to change a few thousand people's minds.


Agreed, the election was really very close. If just about 77,000 people in the right states had voted for Clinton instead of Trump then Clinton could have won.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated


Yes. Couple Putin's efforts with Trump's illegal campaign finance felonies and the Assange/Kremlin Wikileaks email dumps and there's certainly enough influence to illegally sway the electoral college result.

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