ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Trump's murderous Saudi pals (with the backing of Trump/Putin/Netanyahu alliance) are trying to go to war with Iran.

Remember that Trump used a false premise to bypass Congress to 'sell' MBS billions in weapons for this purpose.

Protip: The Shiites and Sunnis have been fighting for 1400+ years. They are going to fight again regardless of US administration either directly or by proxy in other countries.

Trump has basically nothing to do with tension between those two parties. Now if you want to say that Trump has some hawks in the administration that wouldnt mind bombing the shit out of Iran, or Israel pushing them aggressively, ok I'm with you.

Saudia Arabia, and to a lesser degree, Turkey are tenuous allies to have no doubt, but its necessary for our World influence and access.

Alienating Saudia Arabia would be awful from a strategic standpoint. Or worse, allow other powers like China or Russia to increase their influence. There are no easy answers in world politics, especially with situations that have been around forever.

UFC - Ultimate Fighting Championship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ4ZX4Jl3ig
COMBATANT IN CHIEF: The Story of Donald Trump’s History in Combat Sports

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Trump will ALWAYS do whatever Putin instructs him to do.

So, being a globalist is fine as long as you're aligning with dictators rather than democratic leaders?

I have no idea what you are even suggesting. Israel nor the US is a dictatorship. Saudi Arabia is a Monarchy.(like many other countries in the world)

Not all leaders in the world are elected democratically, dont be naive, and get off your high horse. Are you suggesting we overthrow dictators all around the globe? If so we will be quite busy.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Trump will ALWAYS do whatever Putin instructs him to do.

So, being a globalist is fine as long as you're aligning with dictators rather than democratic leaders?

I have no idea what you are even suggesting. Israel nor the US is a dictatorship. Saudi Arabia is a Monarchy.(like many other countries in the world)

Not all leaders in the world are elected democratically, dont be naive, and get off your high horse. Are you suggesting we overthrow dictators all around the globe? If so we will be quite busy.

Don't worry he will be preaching nuance nuance! the moment somebody is ellected he finds reasonable.

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : nevermind, he might just be some anarchist type, in which case no mater who he will cry fault.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Very good article outlining the bottom line crime. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/05/robert-mueller-donald-trump-usa/

Trump thinks he can appeal impeachment in the courts :D

Hahaha Mother Jones! What a fucking source!

Maybe lipless David Corn can help Rachel Maddow's show from bottoming out! (Unlikely) God they are awful... MSM is truly so bad.

At this point I hope they do impeach so the Senate can reach a final verdict.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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The_Impeacher wrote:

Very good article outlining the bottom line crime. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/05/robert-mueller-donald-trump-usa/

Trump thinks he can appeal impeachment in the courts :D

Hahaha Mother Jones! What a fucking source!

Maybe lipless David Corn can help Rachel Maddow's show from bottoming out! (Unlikely) God they are awful... MSM is truly so bad.

At this point I hope they do impeach so the Senate can reach a final verdict.

The source is redundant. Trump allowed and encouraged Putin in the attack against the US. It's treason.

Trump was a candidate during the campaign. He couldn't allow or disallow anything. He was a private citizen still.

All the Obama administration did was start an investigation into Trump officals.(perhaps illegally) The intelligence agencies were telling Obama that The Russians were interfering, no one disputes this, and he did nothing! All because they thought Hillary would win. What a disaster from the Dems.

No one colluded with the Russians from the Trump side, and even Mueller agrees after rigorously investigating.

The rest is just the largest sustanined tantrum we have ever seen in political history from the Democrats. It's truly pathetic.

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Turtledove wrote:

Scrotie's constitutional argument against obstruction of justice was just plain ridiculous.

I know that Boem think's it's okay that Trump thinks he's above the law. But most Americans I hope, will understand that purposefully interfering with an investigation with a corrupt intent is a simple obstruction of justice. Telling people to lie to investigators, for example, is not protected speech anymore than yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded auditorium is protected speech.

Finally, Scrotie is not a Supreme Court justice, he is not even a lawyer so his opinion as a legal matter is irrelevant.

Today, Mueller tried to explain why we should care about Obstruction of Justice

How about you don't just use my name and put words into my mouth.

Also the claim that trump actively obstructed justice when he has worked with the investigation for the entire time is pretty much laughable at this point.

He didn't use any of his priviliges to interfere with the investigation or held anything relevant to the case back.

Don't mistake not liking the investigation and voicing dislike as obstructing on a legal basis.

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : typo

I didn't put words in your mouth. You said something like "All strong leaders act like they're above the law. It's the way it is." If that's not what you believe then sorry, please correct me. No one being above the law is a very important American ideal. Not everyone has to believe in that.

Trump did interfere in the investigation. That is the definition of obstruction of justice. That is why there are some 10 counts of obstruction of justice described in the Mueller report and why over 900 retired federal prosecutors, whose job it was to make such evaluations and decisions, have said that based on the Mueller report descriptions they would have charged Trump with at least 3 of those charges were he not President. I know this is a difficult thing for you to understand because you exist in the Trump lie fog instead of reality.

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Turtledove wrote:

I didn't put words in your mouth. You said something like "All strong leaders act like they're above the law. It's the way it is." If that's not what you believe then sorry, please correct me. No one being above the law is a very important American ideal. Not everyone has to believe in that.

Something like, allegedly, inferred and assumed.

There's a quote function, use it, don't expect other to indulge in your fantasy and simply let it slide when you bring their name into an argument with a negative connotation attached to it.

Must be a democrat thing to negatively portray people based on assumptions and then turn around and demand they clear their name.

#shitposter

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

I didn't put words in your mouth. You said something like "All strong leaders act like they're above the law. It's the way it is." If that's not what you believe then sorry, please correct me. No one being above the law is a very important American ideal. Not everyone has to believe in that.

Something like, allegedly, inferred and assumed.

There's a quote function, use it, don't expect other to indulge in your fantasy and simply let it slide when you bring their name into an argument with a negative connotation attached to it.

Must be a democrat thing to negatively portray people based on assumptions and then turn around and demand they clear their name.

#shitposter

Peace,

-Boem-

I'm not going to search back probably many dozens of pages looking for a quote. I wasn't trying to besmirch your name. Like I said, not everyone has to believe that strong leaders shouldn't be above the law. I was just accepting and allowing for that point of view.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Boem wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

I didn't put words in your mouth. You said something like "All strong leaders act like they're above the law. It's the way it is." If that's not what you believe then sorry, please correct me. No one being above the law is a very important American ideal. Not everyone has to believe in that.

Something like, allegedly, inferred and assumed.

There's a quote function, use it, don't expect other to indulge in your fantasy and simply let it slide when you bring their name into an argument with a negative connotation attached to it.

Must be a democrat thing to negatively portray people based on assumptions and then turn around and demand they clear their name.

#shitposter

Peace,

-Boem-

I'm not going to search back probably many dozens of pages looking for a quote. I wasn't trying to besmirch your name. Like I said, not everyone has to believe that strong leaders shouldn't be above the law. I was just accepting and allowing for that point of view.

How very virtues of you to accept a point of view you attribute to me that i never voiced.

I'll do you the same honor and accept your point of view that rape victims should be forced to keep their baby's by law.

Peace,

-Boem-