ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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Xavderion wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:


She probably wont have to. The forces arrayed against Trump are too large to be reelected. Basically whole MSM in the bag brainwashing Americans working so hard to really dig. I wrongly predicted his loss last time though so you never know - but this time the democrats may present a friendly candidate instead of toxic hillary.


Trump's counter-punch will be yuge, I wouldn't underestimate him. Also the Dem candidates so far are pretty weak. Trump would mop the floor with the current frontrunner (Biden).


Perhaps.I think media with do job on Bernie. He's a has a little too much populism creed - the left wing kind this time- to him pass so they will harp his socialism and destroy him.

Biden is easy. His touchiness and why didnt he do anything about Russia?

The one that worries me Harris. She has "it" factor, small record to attack, and is well connected to Ruling class will get softballs.
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Apr 22, 2019, 3:38:57 PM
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Aim_Deep wrote:

Trump want to minimize gov influences and power at all levels (except border which I do not get but i'm a rare open border open trade republicans...basically maximum freedom at all levels Republican unless you hurt someone) and so far he not started any wars and wants out of the old ones his predecessors started. The ruling class can't have that.


*Cough* Yemen veto
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Aim_Deep wrote:
"It's all good, if you wanna make the argument the west should have let a dictator in charge who was terrorizing his own people and wait until he strikes first before taking him out that's your opinion."


We have a lot of work to do if thats criteria. Starting with some of our allies like Saudi and Israel.


He had genocide on his raport, terorizing his own people, invading and waging war on koeweit and he was building up to misiles with evidence for chemical warfare.

I'm not morally opposed to dethroning autoritarian or dictatorial regimes.

And it's hardly "americas" fault the democrats pulled back on the iraq war after signing off on it 6 months earlier when it became a valid campaign strategy.
That's just sacrificing the region for national political interest's.

The democrats put the knife in the back of both the iraq people and the soldiers present in the region. The shia muslims and kurds took the end of that decisions beating and progressive socialist's where beating their drum in the US praising their own intelect and congratulating themselves.

And then isis emerged from the region, to nobody with half a brains surprise.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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rojimboo wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:

Trump want to minimize gov influences and power at all levels (except border which I do not get but i'm a rare open border open trade republicans...basically maximum freedom at all levels Republican unless you hurt someone) and so far he not started any wars and wants out of the old ones his predecessors started. The ruling class can't have that.


*Cough* Yemen veto

Yemen is KSA's war not ours. And the argument is sound for vetoing bill that would end our assistance. As in do you really want KSA wantingly targeting instead of us choosing military targets and using indiscriminate AOE weapons rather than our smart bombs?

Trump is saving lives.
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Apr 22, 2019, 3:56:31 PM
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Boem wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:
"It's all good, if you wanna make the argument the west should have let a dictator in charge who was terrorizing his own people and wait until he strikes first before taking him out that's your opinion."


We have a lot of work to do if thats criteria. Starting with some of our allies like Saudi and Israel.


He had genocide on his raport, terorizing his own people, invading and waging war on koeweit and he was building up to misiles with evidence for chemical warfare.

I'm not morally opposed to dethroning autoritarian or dictatorial regimes.

And it's hardly "americas" fault the democrats pulled back on the iraq war after signing off on it 6 months earlier when it became a valid campaign strategy.
That's just sacrificing the region for national political interest's.

The democrats put the knife in the back of both the iraq people and the soldiers present in the region. The shia muslims and kurds took the end of that decisions beating and progressive socialist's where beating their drum in the US praising their own intelect and congratulating themselves.

And then isis emerged from the region, to nobody with half a brains surprise.

Peace,

-Boem-


ISIS didnt "emerge" we stopped bribing them billions of dollars to stop attacking us which was unsustainable. ISIS was just same guys who were AQ and Saddam's army which Bush foolishly disbanded.

As far as kill them to save them morals you have about other nations it's twisted, not to mention supremacist and illegal. Then creates worse situations that you went in for in the first place. See how large global jihad movement is today vs 911 or places like Lybia which are Jihadi playgrounds.

I'm sure Europe loves the refugee crisis the wars of choice create too.

Reminds me of our Drug war fueling the Refugee from South America.

War is bad mkay. Unless you must.
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Apr 22, 2019, 4:46:25 PM
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Aim_Deep wrote:
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rojimboo wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:

Trump want to minimize gov influences and power at all levels (except border which I do not get but i'm a rare open border open trade republicans...basically maximum freedom at all levels Republican unless you hurt someone) and so far he not started any wars and wants out of the old ones his predecessors started. The ruling class can't have that.


*Cough* Yemen veto

Yemen is KSA's war not ours. And the argument is sound for vetoing bill that would end our assistance. As in do you really want KSA wantingly targeting instead of us choosing military targets and using indiscriminate AOE weapons rather than our smart bombs?

Trump is saving lives.


Being part of the worst humanitarian crisis as one of the perpetrators, is hardly saving lives...

But I guess you believed Trump's spin story, instead of his loyalty/love affair with MBS, who likes to brutally slaughter American citizens.

But it's ok. It was just a journalist after all. Enemy of the people and all that.
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rojimboo wrote:


Being part of the worst humanitarian crisis as one of the perpetrators, is hardly saving lives...

But I guess you believed Trump's spin story, instead of his loyalty/love affair with MBS, who likes to brutally slaughter American citizens.

But it's ok. It was just a journalist after all. Enemy of the people and all that.


Again you can let Saudi's you just said are brutal conduct carpet bombing and total blockades or keep them on a leech. I think Trump made right choice.
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Apr 22, 2019, 4:53:38 PM
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Aim_Deep wrote:
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rojimboo wrote:


Being part of the worst humanitarian crisis as one of the perpetrators, is hardly saving lives...

But I guess you believed Trump's spin story, instead of his loyalty/love affair with MBS, who likes to brutally slaughter American citizens.

But it's ok. It was just a journalist after all. Enemy of the people and all that.


Again you can let Saudi's you just said are brutal conduct carpet bombing and total blockades or keep them on a leech. I think Trump made right choice.
THey're doing it anyways, tens of thousands have died from Saudi airstrikes!

You think the US is involved to minimise casualties??

It's there to be an ally, and also to supply them with arms and everything related.

Trump is MBS's bitch, but he gets paid so he doesn't care.
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Aim_Deep wrote:
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rojimboo wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:

Trump want to minimize gov influences and power at all levels (except border which I do not get but i'm a rare open border open trade republicans...basically maximum freedom at all levels Republican unless you hurt someone) and so far he not started any wars and wants out of the old ones his predecessors started. The ruling class can't have that.
*Cough* Yemen veto
Yemen is KSA's war not ours. And the argument is sound for vetoing bill that would end our assistance. As in do you really want KSA wantingly targeting instead of us choosing military targets and using indiscriminate AOE weapons rather than our smart bombs?

Trump is saving lives.
You know you're good at mental gymnastics when using drones to drop boms on people, blowing them up into shrapnel and kibble, is "saving lives."

I'll tell you what it isn't doing: it isn't saving American lives. We could risk nothing and no one of our own in the House of Saud's war. And although vengeance is always the wrong answer, we invite that retaliation upon ourselves when we go around killing people. Trump is putting American lives at risk.

We can't and shouldn't control the choices of other sovereign nations. We can't really stop KSA from killing the people of Yemen, unless we do so at the point of a gun. But we can, and should, leave KSA to its own affairs. They can make their own bed, then they can lie in it. They're responsible for the lives of their own people; we should be responsible only for the safety of US citizens.

This doesn't mean I don't care about saving lives. That would be like listening to someone say "Bob should clean Bob's room; Mary should clean Mary's room; Bob shouldn't clean Mary's room" and coming back with "you don't care about Mary's room being clean." I hope the people of that region can come to a solution that saves lives, but it simply is not the USA's mess to clean up, and we've more than enough messes to occupy our time at home.

For example, I would support a bill that orders immediate withdrawal of all currently deployed troops, and makes it impossible for the US to deploy troops to any foreign country, for any reason, unless either 1) Congress officially declares war or 2) the Wall is complete. Pass that, and I guarantee the MIC would have a big, beautiful wall across our entire southern border within two months.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Apr 22, 2019, 6:02:37 PM
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Aim_Deep wrote:

ISIS didnt "emerge" we stopped bribing them billions of dollars to stop attacking us which was unsustainable. ISIS was just same guys who were AQ and Saddam's army which Bush foolishly disbanded.

As far as kill them to save them morals you have it's sick a twisted, not to mention supremacist and illegal. Then creates worse situations that you went in for in the first place. See how large global jihad movement is today vs 911 or places like Lybia which are Jihadi playgrounds.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=armenian+genocide

Those new age jihadi movements. Should i put a "let me google that for you ottoman empire massacres" aswell?

Want me to link the jihad section of the hadith-al-boekhari for you? Or do you think the morals and ways of warfare are some new feat they discovered themselves?

Btw i never mentioned killing, that's a conclusion you drew yourself.

I said dethrone the regime, which can be achieved in multiple ways, invasion being only one of them.

Give me some data on the bribe argument because now it's a loose claim. And "emerging" doesn't negate in any way shape or form that they where not present in that region, in fact it's the opposite. They emerged because America was required to pull out before the mission completed, which was exactly my previous point.

Peace,

-Boem-

Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes

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