ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP
" SCROTIE!! Budget_player_cadet almost said it. Now what Trump didn't say is that some white nationalists were fine people. :-) Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" President Trump is a Nationalist, that is true. And he is a caucasian. To conflate the two into "fascist racist" is ridiculous on the face of it. =9[.]9= =^[.]^= basic (happy/amused) cheetahmoticon: Whiskers/eye/tear-streak/nose/tear-streak/eye/
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" There are many reasons that people think Trump is racist. Here's 10 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/08/14/times-president-trump-comments-called-racist/985438002/ Three pre-presidency candidate Trump racist indicators. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump There are many more articles on this topic but I think those two articles covered it pretty good. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" Well, that's the thing isn't it? The problem is we have a group of people who have convinced themselves, that he is ruining our institutions, making the country more unsafe, or is secretly some racist. But, when you look at a lot of his actual policies, its not that at all. Most of the stuff is common sense. And some of the policies are even left leaning. Its nothing at all what you hear from the news. " What is covered in the news is simply what grabs someone's attention. It isn't an exact representation of his actual positions, or stuff he puts into law. This happened to Obama too, but to a lesser extent. (Fox News at this time was just as psychotic as CNN) And I say this because news organizations generate revenue based on articles that people click on. And if people want to hear about how bad Trump is, that's what you are going to get. You aren't going to hear about the ten or twenty good policies that Trump has enacted, but the one or two, that has people losing their minds. Just to put this in perspective, all those good Trump policies were reported by CNN. It's not CNN's fault that people reading their news simply don't care as much about it. It's why I prefer to get news from multiple sources, it helps filter out the biases from their readership. " I find this ironic, but I'm guessing it's because there was so much negative news coverage about it. If people actually read the tax cut, they'd realize this year they'd be getting more tax returns. (everyone is getting money back) But, yeah, not everyone can be bothered with the small details. " Do you have a source for this? As far as I read, there was no data for how Bush and Obama separated the children. There were only speculations/guessing it was done only in the cases of trafficking or similar crimes because DHS only reported the numbers of children separated. Not how they were separated or why. This makes me suspect, it was done by the discretion of the border patrol. And that families were forcibly separated, anytime facilities or officials thought it was necessary for any reason at all. The only new thing Trump did, was that he made it a formal policy for all detention facilities, a policy which only lasted for 3 months. (⌐■_■)
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" I'm pretty sure the point was to decrease migrants, not inflict undue cruelty on people. All illegal migrants are putting themselves and children at risk by crossing the border illegally. They are going to get hurt or die. Most of them fail to get in. And those that do get in put an undue strain on the communities involved (as we can see in Europe). You are hurting more people than you are helping by encouraging this behavior, every single year. And if we can stop the people crossing from getting, raped, murdered, or killed by separating their families. It should put into action, even if it restricts the rights of the people involved. The only difference from Obama's immigration policy that I'm aware of was that in Obama's era, family separation wasn't mandatory. It happened, and nobody knows how often or why. And that border wide family separation was discussed in his administration, but it never went above that. (⌐■_■) Last edited by RPGlitch on Apr 15, 2019, 11:46:20 PM
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"Ellipsis mine. By the same logic, the way to prevent urban crime is to increase the property taxes in the highest-crime neighborhoods, to encourage residents to leave. You're advocating a policy of kicking people while they're down in order to make a perilous journey even more perilous. If that isn't an outright hateful approach to solving the problem, it is at best coldly contemptuous. "Ah, there's where that resentment comes from. Stop hiding your power level, Glitch. You don't like what the immigrants have done to Europe and are doing/threatening to do to the United States, and you blame them, in whole or in part, for it — as is evidenced by your policy preferences. I'll be completely honest — I am more than a little appalled by the effects poorly regulated and nigh-uncontrolled imigration has had on the United Kingdom. I desperately wish for effective policy in the US to prevent or mitigate similar issues. But I'm not bigoted enough to believe that the typical Pakistani imigrant to a suburb of London is a future violent pimp; I understand that such evil men constitute a tiny minority of such immigrants. The only imigrants I have even the slightest iota of resentment towards are the ones who commit violent crime or fraud. I have no hatred towards the immigrant who, on the basis of merit, competes for a job and wins it over native competitors. I have no resentment towards the imigrant who applies for welfare using the same process as everyone else, and receives government assistance legally. These are just people trying to better themselves honestly. They did nothing wrong, and it's possible they went through hell just trying to get a shot at the American dream. If I take issue with anyone, it is with those with power over policy. We shouldn't be letting in more people than our labor market is ready to handle. We shouldn't be letting in people who will put additional burden on a welfare system that can't even properly provide for its own. But none of these things are the fault of immigrants. They aren't responsible for our labor market's capacity; they aren't responsible for how we've designed our welfare systems, or how well funded they are; they (usually) aren't employed as peace officers tasked with getting rapists off the streets. If you voluntarily decide to give your rent money to a beggar, and you later can't pay your rent, nobody is going to blame the beggar. Maybe we should be turning away more immigrants (even legal immigrants) than we currently are (or maybe not). But if we do turn people away, we sure as shit shouldn't be putting salt on the wound by punishing them on top of rejecting them. Just as with any professionally conducted job interview, we should treat those who aren't selected with dignity and respect, until and unless they do something to earn our contempt that is more egregious than existing within our jurisdiction. There's no valid excuse for this maltreatment of attempted-immigrant families without probable cause. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Apr 16, 2019, 1:07:07 AM
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" There's only one reason: TDS. GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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" Imagine unironically linking to The Root, a black supremacist racist blog. White nationalists hate Trump. They accuse him of being "Zion Don" and rail him for wanting record high legal immigration.  GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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" Yeah, no. You break the law (crossing the border illegally). You get jailed. You do it again. You get a harsher punishment (family separation). That's hardly kicking people down. That's discouraging bad behavior. Its teaching people that if you want to be a functioning part of society you follow the rules. Not break them, when you feel like you had a hard enough life. I'd agree with you if we placed an unnecessary financial burden every illegal immigrant like fining them over 1000$ dollars for their housing in detention. Or do actual humanitarian crimes, like torture them, while they are confined. That would be kicking them down. But, jailing them and separating them, is not that far and beyond the policies that deal with criminal activity. In fact, it appears we let them off too lightly, as we have so many repeat offenders. Its also not the same thing as a high property taxes on high crime neighborhoods (an action that does not automatically give people a higher standard of living and nor does it solve the crime problem. You're moving the criminals to another city, to cause problems there.) " Well, this is true. I don't like what happened in Europe. And I don't want that disaster happening in the U.S. But, I'm not hiding my power level, lol. If you had a question about it. I'd have told you. If you are talking about my temper, I try to keep that in check, as I don't think that's too useful in a conversation. I don't want to be like turtledove, screaming like a banshee. " Well, that's the thing. Illegal immigrants are doing something egregious. They are breaking the laws meant to keep citizens safe from people, who may have criminal or malicious intent. This is not special treatment for everyone crossing the border. There are millions of immigrants, who go through the legal process. Get an interview and file the paperwork, to show they haven't killed anyone, sold drugs, or raped people. To live in the United States. These millions of people, waiting for that job interview, are not being maltreated. It's the people who break into that interview room at night and scribbles their name on the top of the list that get put in jail. And since more of them keep coming despite us telling them to stop ignoring our laws. We make the jail a lot less comfortable. That's what we have now. It may not be the best thing to do, but what other options are you proposing we do? (⌐■_■) Last edited by RPGlitch on Apr 16, 2019, 3:51:56 AM
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Interesting how those who advocate for using the kid gloves on border jumpers also forget that their criminality doesn't end with entering the US in violation of our laws. Disregarding any other varieties of crime these scofflaws may ultimately commit, their ongoing presence in the US routinely requires identity theft and other forms of fraud, in order to function within our socio-economic structure.
Not exactly victimless crimes. Anyway, seems some folks in this thread need Band-Aids for their bleeding hearts. =9[.]9= =^[.]^= basic (happy/amused) cheetahmoticon: Whiskers/eye/tear-streak/nose/tear-streak/eye/ whiskers =@[.]@= boggled / =>[.]<= annoyed or angry / ='[.]'= concerned / =0[.]o= confuzzled / =-[.]-= sad or sleepy / =*[.]*= dazzled / =^[.]~= wink / =~[.]^= naughty wink / =9[.]9= rolleyes #FourYearLie Last edited by Raycheetah on Apr 16, 2019, 6:09:07 AM
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