ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

Democrats are staging a full blown political circus but Cocaine Mitch is not playing ball and it drives them absolutely mad. I love this fucking turtle.

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/436006-mcconnell-blocks-resolution-calling-for-release-of-mueller-report

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Turtledove wrote:

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Here's a transcript of what was said my dude.



It's a fair assessment of the situation. In no way does he say or even hint at the fact that white nationalists might be good people.

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Turtledove wrote:

Why is the search results so overwhelming on the other side?

You're kinda close to a redpill there but something tells me you'll spit it out.

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Kellog wrote:

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Healthcare isn't a right, and forcing people by law to purchase a privatized good, fining them when they don't, is absurdly unconstitutional.

Got it. You don't care if Americans suffer or die.

In all developed countries of the world except the USA, healthcare is a right rather than a privilege. Healthcare in the USA is broken and has been badly broken for generations. In the USA our healthcare costs are WAY more and we are less healthy. The ACA has helped but not enough. Fixing the ACA is the way to go not, going backwards.

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Xavderion wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

stuff

Here's a transcript of what was said my dude.



It's a fair assessment of the situation. In no way does he say or even hint at the fact that white nationalists might be good people.

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Turtledove wrote:

Why is the search results so overwhelming on the other side?

You're kinda close to a redpill there but something tells me you'll spit it out.

Since you can't read, the first time maybe you can the second time.

Why is the search results so overwhelming on the other side? It's because it seems obvious to me and most other people that when Trump condemned racism he was reading dryly and unemotionally from a script. So, those words mean little. Trump's greatest strength is communication. He wanted to defend the racists as best he could without admitting that he himself is a racist. When he was doing that he was off script and emotionally very into what he was saying. Trump's greatest strength is communication he could have been plain and straight forward in his condemnation of racism. He did not just communicate incorrectly. He most wanted to let the racists know that he was on their side and he did exactly that.

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Turtledove wrote:

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Kellog wrote:

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Healthcare isn't a right, and forcing people by law to purchase a privatized good, fining them when they don't, is absurdly unconstitutional.

Got it. You don't care if Americans suffer or die.

In all developed countries of the world except the USA, healthcare is a right rather than a privilege. Healthcare in the USA is broken and has been badly broken for generations. In the USA our healthcare costs are WAY more and we are less healthy. The ACA has helped but not enough. Fixing the ACA is the way to go not, going backwards.

That's not really an argument right?

Other country's have it as a right, therefore we should do it. That doesn't demonstrate the merit of the system in question in the least.

One could easily point to the socialist nature of health care in the EU for example to partially explain the favored migration paths currently which as a result overload the system as a whole and are detrimental to the country's that adopt them.

Also talying up country's that have maybe 1/5 the size of an american state and then putting that number up against America as a whole is not really an honest representation of people under a system.

"The USA" is a pretty huge part of the world.

I think "headcount" representation instead of "nation" representation would be a fairer baseline to draw conclusions from if factual representation is the goal.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Turtledove wrote:

Why is the search results so overwhelming on the other side? It's because it seems obvious to me and most other people that when Trump condemned racism he was reading dryly and unemotionally from a script. So, those words mean little. Trump's greatest strength is communication. He wanted to defend the racists as best he could without admitting that he himself is a racist. When he was doing that he was off script and emotionally very into what he was saying. Trump's greatest strength is communication he could have been plain and straight forward in his condemnation of racism. He did not just communicate incorrectly. He most wanted to let the racists know that he was on their side and he did exactly that.

So he condemned white nationalists and never said they were good people, but because he didn't do it enthusiastically enough for your (very arbitrary) taste, it's fine to claim literally the opposite of what he said? Way to justify spreading fake news.

Here's your thought process: 1. He's a racist (this is a god-given truism and must not be questioned) 2. Since he's a racist everything he says is racist even if he literally condemns racism 3. Since he's saying racist things (even when saying literally the opposite) this further confirms that he's a racist 4. start at step one.

This is your brain on TDS.

Just a little nugget on global warm--- err I mean climate change:

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Xavderion wrote:

Just a little nugget on global warm--- err I mean climate change:

It doesn't prove anything at this point.

It would be unwise for either side to claim victory over this, just like i still think it's unwise to claim global warming is specifically "man-made".

It misses the real issue on two points.

1) man-made or not is irrelevant to the core issue which is the earth is slowly gaining warmth.

2) presenting it as man-made feeds the nihilist's and "anti-human" part of society.(mentally immoral when it is not factually proven)

The upside to the "global warming" discussion is easy, thank god it's warming and not cooling. Because we have factual data of which we would prefer to happen if we had a choice between the two.

tl;dr pointing fingers on this subject is completely failing to comprehend the issue at hand and what should be happening instead in my opinion.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Xavderion wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Why is the search results so overwhelming on the other side? It's because it seems obvious to me and most other people that when Trump condemned racism he was reading dryly and unemotionally from a script. So, those words mean little. Trump's greatest strength is communication. He wanted to defend the racists as best he could without admitting that he himself is a racist. When he was doing that he was off script and emotionally very into what he was saying. Trump's greatest strength is communication he could have been plain and straight forward in his condemnation of racism. He did not just communicate incorrectly. He most wanted to let the racists know that he was on their side and he did exactly that.

So he condemned white nationalists and never said they were good people, but because he didn't do it enthusiastically enough for your (very arbitrary) taste, it's fine to claim literally the opposite of what he said? Way to justify spreading fake news.

Here's your thought process: 1. He's a racist (this is a god-given truism and must not be questioned) 2. Since he's a racist everything he says is racist even if he literally condemns racism 3. Since he's saying racist things (even when saying literally the opposite) this further confirms that he's a racist 4. start at step one.

This is your brain on TDS.

I'm really getting convinced that you are not very smart.

Everything you said is irrelevant to the question. Let me put the question back up for you.

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Why is the search results so overwhelming on the other side?

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Turtledove wrote:

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I'm not really following your discussion with Xav, but you sort of lost me when you argued "Trump's greatest strength is communication."

There is probably 1 person in the white house that would agree with that sentiment and that would be trump himself and 99.9% that would disagree with that including his own people.

His greatest strenght is to speak whatever pops up in his mind without filter.

That's not the same as "great communication skills".

His own people are probably thinking "what the fuck did he say this time again" 90% of the time.

Or are you defining great communication skills as "unfiltered/thoughtless"?

Peace,

-Boem-