ALL HAIL PRESIDENT TRUMP

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deathflower wrote:

You mean fake left and fake liberals? Why are people calling people on the left liberals when a lot of them are not in fact liberals?

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deathflower wrote:

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kiadaw wrote:

Modern liberals not classical liberism. YOu can call them fake liberals or whatever you like. Every group name call, but its not even Steven. The intolerance of opposing idea is disportional from the (todays) left.
& I am not a liberals or republicans. Its an obseration support by reports also.
There are reseacrhe that show that too.

So what if people name call? It is Freedom of speech. If Trump's nonsense is considered OK, people can abuse their freedom of speech however they want. It works if you have a thick skin. And I have a pretty thick skin.

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CanHasPants wrote:

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deathflower wrote:

You mean fake left and fake liberals? Why are people calling people on the left liberals when a lot of them are not in fact liberals?

I said this in the old thread :) We should endeavor to call them what they are and not allow liberalism to become wholly subverted; they are Marxists, which is antithetical to liberalism. Conversely, constitutionalism is true liberalism, yet is synonymous with conservativism. Interesting!

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CanHasPants wrote:

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deathflower wrote:

You mean fake left and fake liberals? Why are people calling people on the left liberals when a lot of them are not in fact liberals?

I said this in the old thread :) We should endeavor to call them what they are and not allow liberalism to become wholly subverted; they are Marxists, which is antithetical to liberalism. Conversely, constitutionalism is true liberalism, yet is synonymous with conservativism. Interesting!

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

I wonder what you think of Carl "Sargon of Akkad" Benjamin's recent attempt to rebrand classical liberals as "liberalists."

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deathflower wrote:

Aren't they Social Justice Warriors? They advocate social changes and social movements. Have nothing to do with Marxism. They aren't a faction of liberalism but more likely the civil rights movement. Civil rights movement is not always non violence. However many prominent leaders of civil rights movement advocate non-violent resistance as the mean to their end.

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CanHasPants wrote:

Social justice is a rebranding of the communist’s class struggle. Rather than the working man fighting the capitalist, its the victim fighting the privileged. Same pig, new lip stick.

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deathflower wrote:

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CanHasPants wrote:

Social justice is a rebranding of the communist’s class struggle. Rather than the working man fighting the capitalist, its the victim fighting the privileged. Same pig, new lip stick.

People like to lumping things together and overgeneralise. Social movements existed long before marxism. In fact certain social movement is about Social injustice, and placing special privileges and rights into their own groups. Good and evil can be subjective. What is good for me, might be bad for you or vice versa. Rather a "me" group vs "you" group problem.

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23 Jan 2018

Illegal alien activists stormed the home of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and the offices of Democrats demanding immediate amnesty for all 12 to 30 million illegal aliens in the United States, as well as the release of all illegal aliens who are in detention centers for crossing the U.S.-Mexico border illegally...

Illegal alien activists also stormed through the offices of Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), with one illegal alien who has been shielded from deportation by the President Obama-created Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program taking issue with even the words “illegal immigrant.”

“We need [the DREAM Act] now,” the DACA illegal alien said. “You need to show leadership and show everybody else that you are willing to stand with your immigrant community and not with this white supremacist president, this administration.”...

"[M]y economics and civics class... labeled immigrants as ‘illegals,’ as people who shouldn’t be here... I remember crying so hard that I had to leave that room. And I remember there were people laughing in that class. And that’s the day that I came out as undocumented."

“DACA is no longer enough,” she said. “Not only is DACA not only a band-aid on the problem but its also a burden to our people.”

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

I think I finally broke deathflower's mind last page. It seems he's fine with the SJWs and fine with the alt-right but wishes death upon all normies.

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Edit: not just his (her?) mind, though:

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23 Jan 2018

Illegal alien activists stormed the home of Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and the offices of Democrats demanding immediate amnesty for all 12 to 30 million illegal aliens in the United States, as well as the release of all illegal aliens who are in detention centers for crossing the U.S.-Mexico border illegally...

Illegal alien activists also stormed through the offices of Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), with one illegal alien who has been shielded from deportation by the President Obama-created Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program taking issue with even the words “illegal immigrant.”

“We need [the DREAM Act] now,” the DACA illegal alien said. “You need to show leadership and show everybody else that you are willing to stand with your immigrant community and not with this white supremacist president, this administration.”...

"[M]y economics and civics class... labeled immigrants as ‘illegals,’ as people who shouldn’t be here... I remember crying so hard that I had to leave that room. And I remember there were people laughing in that class. And that’s the day that I came out as undocumented."

“DACA is no longer enough,” she said. “Not only is DACA not only a band-aid on the problem but its also a burden to our people.”

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deathflower wrote:

I was expecting something better than this. If someone commit a crime, is it the crime of the group? If a Trumpster shoot someone on 5th avenue, should we throw Trump in jail? It is association fallacy.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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deathflower wrote:

I was expecting something better than this. If someone commit a crime, is it the crime of the group? If a Trumpster shoot someone on 5th avenue, should we throw Trump in jail? It is association fallacy.

What association fallacy? I just said you weren't the only one losing your mind over the Schumer cuckdown. Are you saying the article doesn't describe craziness?