[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Trilecon wrote:

I just tried Uber Atziri for the first time. My character is level 91, I'm using TV's, zombies, stone golem and no animated guardian. I kept running into the same problem during my run...

My specters do not survive through the fight and stopping to respawn them in the middle of it is suicide. I'm using all the recommended skill gems, all max quality except minion resists, but as soon as my spectres die I'm screwed. I was using level 81 specters (4 levels lower then the max) and don't use unending hunger, although I think it doesn't matter since they die when there's no creeps around.

Can 4 more levels on my specters have enough impact on survivability to complete this run?

Should I forget resummoning my zombies and just focus on staying alive and using convocation to bail my specters out when their low?

Or is their something else I'm missing?

I just had a look at your character and your gear does not look like it's remotely up to scratch, some of your gems are still only level 10 or 11, you haven't taken 4 of the minion life nodes on the skill tree and you don't even have close to the recommended end-game gear yet on top of that. You also don't have the correct flasks selected.

Your jewels in the skill tree also have 1/3 of their stats wasted on "minions deal X to X additional damage", which is a pointless stat roll compared to what's advised in the build guide. My advice would be that since the SG's and TV's already do pretty huge damage, look for jewels that have "+X to Life / Minion's Regen X% of their max life / Minions leech X% of damage as life". Two of these gem's alone with the minion life nodes taken on the skill tree will have Tier 13 raised Spectres basically immortal, no chance Tier 16 raised Spectres are going to die. You then add in a 1 chaos priced Unending Hunger jewel and your Spectres are getting an 8% AOE boost and also Soul Eater (A stackable boost of 5% Attack Speed, 5% Cast Speed & Extra Life for every enemy they kill) for 30 seconds every time they kill anything.

You also need to re-consider some of your your gem links too, I mean, just the fact that shield charge is not linked to faster attacks means that you won't have the movement speed to avoid any of the big damage from any of the end-game bosses or content right there. My advice would be to re-read the build guide again thoroughly and equip the gear, flasks and items needed, then try and do Uber Atziri again. Also, watch a few Uber Atziri kill guides on Youtube. You'd be surprised at how easy the fight is once you know the mechanics of the boss fight & where to stand to avoid the big damage at key moments of the fight.

I swapped out one jewel socket for the 4 minion life/regen nodes I was missing. I upgraded my gems recently, they were level 20 during the fight. I have 4 reckless defense jewels and 1 minion jewel that grants taunt and HP - all recommended by the guide along with rest my gear.

I was doing fine during the uber atziri fight until my spectres died. So my question still stands:

Will 4 levels make a big difference on their survivability?

Should I ignore my zombies to keep my specters alive?

I swapped out one jewel socket for the 4 minion life/regen nodes I was missing. I upgraded my gems recently, they were level 20 during the fight. I have 4 reckless defense jewels and 1 minion jewel that grants taunt and HP - all recommended by the guide along with rest my gear.

I was doing fine during the uber atziri fight until my spectres died. So my question still stands:

Will 4 levels make a big difference on their survivability?

Should I ignore my zombies to keep my specters alive?

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Trilecon wrote:

I swapped out one jewel socket for the 4 minion life/regen nodes I was missing. I upgraded my gems recently, they were level 20 during the fight. I have 4 reckless defense jewels and 1 minion jewel that grants taunt and HP - all recommended by the guide along with rest my gear.

I was doing fine during the uber atziri fight until my spectres died. So my question still stands:

Will 4 levels make a big difference on their survivability?

Should I ignore my zombies to keep my specters alive?

Your desecrate gem is only level 18. That means your spectres are limited to level 77.

Also, you *are* running with Bone Offering against hard targets, right? Flesh is fine for trash, but you need the block / heal from Bone for heavy hitters.

I used a lvl 19 desecrate, which isn't currently equipped. Kept bone offering up through the whole fight would be nice if it showed its duration!

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Trilecon wrote:

I used a lvl 19 desecrate, which isn't currently equipped. Kept bone offering up through the whole fight would be nice if it showed its duration!

well, what is killing them? Atziri herself or trio or trash? Was it a certain skill that was killing them? How far did you get? It'd be easier to find you a solution if you can find out the cause.

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grimjack68 wrote:

then pause before the boss room and swap to 1SG/3TVs.

Ehh, kinda beats the whole point of increasing the clear speed. :|

Got Uber Elder to 25%/30% on my first attempt with those stupid SGs, feel incredibly butthurt and ready to switch to literally anything else. ;_;

Would good watcher eye worth losing potential life and minion damage/res/regen from abyss jewel? I am thinking of either clarity mods for surv or haste for speed clearing.

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BiggestNoobEver wrote:

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Trilecon wrote:

I used a lvl 19 desecrate, which isn't currently equipped. Kept bone offering up through the whole fight would be nice if it showed its duration!

well, what is killing them? Atziri herself or trio or trash? Was it a certain skill that was killing them? How far did you get? It'd be easier to find you a solution if you can find out the cause.

I got passed the dual vaal boss without dying or losing any of my specters. I died twice on the trio and lost two specters to bleed, which I resummoned in the Alluring Abyss giving me level 80 specters for the final Atziri fight. If I played more carefully I could've probably avoided dying / losing specters to the trio.

I got Atziri to about 1/3 of her HP before I ran out of portals, on my final attempt I got an aurabot to join me, but that wasn't enough to keep my specters alive. Specters died to the red/yellow stormcall attacks and then I would die trying to resummon them otherwise I could survive the fight with little
issue. I believe my specters had max resistance with the added totem/minion resists gem. Maybe it's just a matter of using convocation more often? I've seen some burning specter videos and they rarely bother using convocation and maybe have 1 specter die.

Also what's everyone's take on commander of darkness vs puppet master for end-game if you already have max resists?

Hey All... this staff worth building around?



Its alot of extra DPS...

NS