[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper+UberAtz Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | Starter Build

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lumosnoxlumo wrote:
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mrmajoogal wrote:
Hi, great guide, only now starting a Dark Pact character as I want to give Shaper and Uber Atziri a proper shot. One question (I couldn't see anything in the guide about it) why do you not take Mind Over Matter? is it just a case of wanting to run auras?


Hmm as a spell caster build with no access to insanity gloves, running haste really provides a lot of utility for the build! The attack speed helps for faster whirling, cast speed stacks blight and wither much faster and the movement speed is just a cherry on top.

Arctic armour also synergises well with the build as channelling blight will mitigate physical and fire damage.


In one of the earlier comments, another player did run MoM but you need the %damage gained as mana affix on one of your gears/jewels. This is to ensure that you will never run out of mana and to be able to continuously cast blight no matter how much damage you take. This is due to the low mana costs of channelling spells.

However, a caveat will be that the mitigated mana will not count towards the 15% life taken for a savage hit to proc. In a sense, its not a wholly beneficial keystone to take.


Thanks for the reply! I assumed there was a reason why you had chosen to avoid MoM but just couldn't really work it out myself, I did consider that maybe it would take a percentage of mana for the dark pact damage and you Out of mana yourself too quickly.
Again, thanks for the reply, really enjoying this build so far!
Thank you very much for the build its working out really well, I now have all guardians on farm :)

I am still however having issues with Shaper - I tried him three times now.
Manage to get to third phase, pretty reliably, but I can't seem to outdps the amount of balls, or I make a minor mistake and rip :-(
Last try I managed to get him to within culling range, and then ripped cause I didn't take culling strike with me >_< I do have the +1 gloves, and 21/20 DP, so I don't think there's much there that I could change. If you look at my profile, you can see the updated character.
I seem to have reached roughly the same gear that you are sporting, and yet I can see your damage on the Shaper is WAY higher... I'm probably not doing something... Maybe the flask? Dang :(
Any tips you could give are realy appreciated.

Also... Have you had any luck calcing the actual dps of this build?
I can't seem to figure it out in PoB :(
Last edited by Sawtyss#3943 on Sep 21, 2017, 6:27:57 PM
Working on making this build, should have been done ages ago TBH but i got fed up with the levelign process and quit for a few days, anyways, some questions:

1. Can belly fill in for kaoms until i can get a kaoms? currencycop says i have 1200c somewhere in my stash, but i cant find it (probably adding in all the .5c crap i have), and i only have 270c-ish, and 1 ex (2 if i count the 17 harbinger shards).

2. You have random crit node on your tree that doesnt seem to add to anything... is it intentional?
I have a third question, why haste? Haste doesnt DO anything, it doesnt increase cast speed of channeled skills, and you arent attacking (until you use whirling blades) so why are we using haste in this build?
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gubaguy wrote:
I have a third question, why haste? Haste doesnt DO anything, it doesnt increase cast speed of channeled skills, and you arent attacking (until you use whirling blades) so why are we using haste in this build?


Hmm as a spell caster build with no access to insanity gloves, running haste really provides a lot of utility for the build! The attack speed helps for faster whirling, cast speed stacks blight and wither much faster and the movement speed is just a cherry on top.
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
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gubaguy wrote:
Working on making this build, should have been done ages ago TBH but i got fed up with the levelign process and quit for a few days, anyways, some questions:

1. Can belly fill in for kaoms until i can get a kaoms? currencycop says i have 1200c somewhere in my stash, but i cant find it (probably adding in all the .5c crap i have), and i only have 270c-ish, and 1 ex (2 if i count the 17 harbinger shards).

2. You have random crit node on your tree that doesnt seem to add to anything... is it intentional?


Oh that extra crit node was respeced a long time ago; forgot to update the pob link. My character profile should have the latest passive tree!

Belly is a really good chest to have after kaoms, ubt I dont really recommend it over cheaper alternatives such as cherrub's or a rare one
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
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Sawtyss wrote:
Thank you very much for the build its working out really well, I now have all guardians on farm :)

I am still however having issues with Shaper - I tried him three times now.
Manage to get to third phase, pretty reliably, but I can't seem to outdps the amount of balls, or I make a minor mistake and rip :-(
Last try I managed to get him to within culling range, and then ripped cause I didn't take culling strike with me >_< I do have the +1 gloves, and 21/20 DP, so I don't think there's much there that I could change. If you look at my profile, you can see the updated character.
I seem to have reached roughly the same gear that you are sporting, and yet I can see your damage on the Shaper is WAY higher... I'm probably not doing something... Maybe the flask? Dang :(
Any tips you could give are realy appreciated.

Also... Have you had any luck calcing the actual dps of this build?
I can't seem to figure it out in PoB :(


I'm really sorry to hear of your troubles. I've checked out your gear and they seem pretty good- if not better than mine. Your dps should be similar to mine in that regard. I did check the dps of the build in POB, it was around 250k shaper DPS with 1 wither stack. I suppose it can go up to 400k with max (16) wither stacks.

Also, are you dropping a wither totem? It is really essential as it ramps up out dps by a lot. Also, try to get a cloaked in savagery proc as often as possible. It really helps.
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
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lumosnoxlumo wrote:
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gubaguy wrote:
Working on making this build, should have been done ages ago TBH but i got fed up with the levelign process and quit for a few days, anyways, some questions:

1. Can belly fill in for kaoms until i can get a kaoms? currencycop says i have 1200c somewhere in my stash, but i cant find it (probably adding in all the .5c crap i have), and i only have 270c-ish, and 1 ex (2 if i count the 17 harbinger shards).

2. You have random crit node on your tree that doesnt seem to add to anything... is it intentional?


Oh that extra crit node was respeced a long time ago; forgot to update the pob link. My character profile should have the latest passive tree!

Belly is a really good chest to have after kaoms, ubt I dont really recommend it over cheaper alternatives such as cherrub's or a rare one


Oh, when i asked i didnt have a kaoms, jsut a 6L belly from my previous build i got bored of, but now i have a kaoms heart. My only concern now is getting leveled up, the clearspeed is surprisingly good in this buildand im not sure if i lucked out or not, but i picked up these for 1c.

Hi,

Long time forum lurker here but I wanted to sign in and say thank you for the build, it has catapulted me far further than I've ever managed with my meagre skills at this game so kudos for crafting this great setup! :)

I did have a few questions though about the amount of DPS you have mentioned vs what I'm seeing in PoB and about where to go next:

Damage wise I think I've replicated your build as accurately as possible although i'm now just short the 21/20 gems and the helm enchant (+40% DP is EXPENSIVE!) however on PoB I'm only seeing 124k DPS on DP which goes up to about 280k DPS on 20 wither stacks. Am I missing something glaringly obvious that is making me miss out on the 250k/400k you've talked about? The damage I'm doing now is pretty good and getting me through most things although the guardians have been a bit of a struggle and I haven't braved the Shaper yet (more out of nerves of never having done him before).

As for where to go next I did a bit of theory crafting in PoB that I want to run past you. If I manage to get more levels (3 specifically) I was thinking about going for the jewel spot next to Blood Drinker on the right and pick up another 16/12/7 jewel rather than going for the spell damage near Occultists Dominion as it seems to put the DPS up a little higher and increases health by another 500 or so. What do you think?
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Super_Bob wrote:
Hi,

Long time forum lurker here but I wanted to sign in and say thank you for the build, it has catapulted me far further than I've ever managed with my meagre skills at this game so kudos for crafting this great setup! :)

I did have a few questions though about the amount of DPS you have mentioned vs what I'm seeing in PoB and about where to go next:

Damage wise I think I've replicated your build as accurately as possible although i'm now just short the 21/20 gems and the helm enchant (+40% DP is EXPENSIVE!) however on PoB I'm only seeing 124k DPS on DP which goes up to about 280k DPS on 20 wither stacks. Am I missing something glaringly obvious that is making me miss out on the 250k/400k you've talked about? The damage I'm doing now is pretty good and getting me through most things although the guardians have been a bit of a struggle and I haven't braved the Shaper yet (more out of nerves of never having done him before).

As for where to go next I did a bit of theory crafting in PoB that I want to run past you. If I manage to get more levels (3 specifically) I was thinking about going for the jewel spot next to Blood Drinker on the right and pick up another 16/12/7 jewel rather than going for the spell damage near Occultists Dominion as it seems to put the DPS up a little higher and increases health by another 500 or so. What do you think?



Of course the jewel socket will definitely be better than the spell nodes, thank you for pointing that out! But towards the end I was getting lazy in searching for jewels to min-max so I went for the easy spell damage nodes!

The total DPS was calculated using both blight at maximum stacks(16) as well as dark pact! You'd be surprised to know that blight actually contributes a significant amount of DPS to the build!

Edit: just FYI, with all the cast speed on the tree + haste, max wither and blight stacks are 16 stacks, factoring in temp chains with shaper curse effectiveness. It will be slightly more for mobs and normal boss, although it probably doesn't matter
[3.0] BLIGHT PACT | Guardians+Shaper Down on a 4l! Budget To Not So Budget | 9k life | Starter Build - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1957148
Last edited by lumosnoxlumo#4465 on Sep 24, 2017, 11:35:28 AM

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