[3.6 Video Guide] Beginner's Guide SRS Baron Life [HC/SC/Atziri/Uber Izaro/Shaper Viable]

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Imurgod wrote:

Is generosity+hatred helpful at all for SRS? most of times I think spirits just ran out of range attacking something, besides, we do want to attack in range not face-tanking anything. how well does hatred effect SRS? anyone tested yet?

Even with 0% quality when I tested the range of hatred it was affecting my minions at about a bit over half a screen away. If you feel like you have to be more than that far away, get a gem with more quality on it. 20%Q is 20% extra area of effect. If you need to be more than that away from mobs you probably need more defense.

Also 20% on Generosity gives 40% increased AOE according to the wiki. Haven't tested that out yet tho.

If you are looking to farm white close helmets for chancing, act 3 docks drops about 1 a run and it's easy.

Just finished kitava with a +2 staff, hatred, stone golem, and cruel and normal lab buffs. THat fight was awful, srs clearing so slow compared to leagues past running ci with 4 aura. Can't wait to get a baron, hopefully we all get one or else this is just a goddamn pipe dream chasing a level 26 helmet

I have never thought to try and go the chancing route to obtain a specific unique. Given the cost of the baron currently, should i give it a go? How many of you have actually acquired a build-enabling unique this way? Surely the amount of chances you'd spend would better go toward saving up for one that someone's selling, right?

I guess the question isn't new, and is just the nature of gambling with currency, but was wondering what you guys thought about it.

With baron so expensive im trying to extend my time without it. I happened to get a essence worm drop so figured i could toss my hatred in it and go MOM to try and cover the cost of moving up to 5l.

Anyone tried to use MOM to cover SRS mana cost?

Also can confirm act 10 and Kitava were horrible, although GGG history does own our faces with new acts so im sure well get used to it (or it will get balanced, i'm looking at you Heretical Wards!)\

hob

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Gentso wrote:

Do these people think they're actually going to sell the helmet for these ridiculous prices? Who even has the currency for that? Just seems like this is a waste of everyone's time.

+1

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Vallenhael wrote:

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Vallenhael wrote:

Hey;

50 chance orbs, thats the average number of chancing it takes to get a Baron. So if they refuse to drop within a near future it is very possible to chance it yourself with high probability.

BTW, how do you know its 2%?

Extensive testing from myself and a large group of other people helping out, think we hit about 20,000 helmets in total which had an average around 1/50.

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fleetwood417 wrote:

Don't worry, I'm back with another silly question. Being that Ball lightning and GMP is for EE, do you just leave those gems at level 1?

There are no silly questions in here, feel free bro.
You can absolutely leave them at lvl 1 to avoid extensive mana cost. :)

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gokudin wrote:

what gem u link with SRS in NA?

elemental weakness isnt better for ball light?

For softcore or more offensive stats, yes.
Same as without NA/Vics Charity. SRS > Melee Splash > Min DMG > Melee Phys

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Ziddletwix wrote:

Is the whole trip down through the strength nodes of the tree (in the bottom left) meant for your preparation for Baron? If you're not sure when you'll have a Baron, is it worth getting other nodes (like some of the minion ones at the top, some extra resistances/health ones that are closer), and then resspeccing to go full str once you get the Baron?

I'm currently chugging through Act 9, will plan to get to maps soon. But I'm going to take off on Tuesday for some time, not sure if I'll return to the build after, and I bet I won't be able to afford a Baron before then. So basically, I'm looking to maximize this build to get to maps, and under the assumption I probably won't get a baron (and if I return and the price has come down, I'll transition to that).

Currently, I'm using an early 4L +1 minion helm, it's served me well for now. I assume at some point I should switch to a weapon with more links. How would I go about getting a 5/6 link weapon that actually has +1/+2 fire skills? (I assume the switch isn't worth it unless the weapon has both more links and +1 to gems, because SRS scales hard with levels, so I don't think extra links is worth losing the +1 levels). I haven't found any essences that give +1 to fire gems. Should I just use path of trade? Do you just roll a bunch of staffs using your currency and hope to get +1 fire gems? I"m very new to this game so I'm pretty lost as to how to actually gear my character.

For reference, my character is here ( https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ziddletwix/characters). As you can tell, I've just been plowing ahead, paid no attention to gearing properly, but I'm thinking I'll need to start actually making gear soon.

Finally, when I try to sue hatred + generosity, I have not enough mana to function. Should I only use that if I can find a weapon or chest that gives me blood magic for my SRS? Otherwise, I can't seem to make that work, so I've just been sticking with clarity as my only aura.

Hey,

Your assumption regarding the skilltree is correct, you can be slightly more efficient but the differences are very VERY minimal.

Regarding the weapon it is all stated very specifically in the guide to never go for a 5L, you should stay with a 4L helmet (either baron or any other +2 minion gems (+1 early game)) and use Necromantic Aegis with Victario's Charity till you get a 6L which will work as a pseudo 5L when you apply the BM support gem, at least till you can get the BM benchcraft in which case it turns in to a 6L.

Regarding the Auras, you should use Generosity Hatred AND a higher lvl Clarity, if you are unable to run these you must be linking the aura gems with support gems that affects their mana reservation which should not be the case, the 2 auras should never be a problem to use even without any aura nodes.

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gokudin wrote:

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Mckaguer wrote:

Can some people farming maps, upload their current gear, trying to get a few more ideas, been a while since I played. Thanks

I'm using those items. i dont know if is this the best gem set for NA now i'm farming T7 maps without any problem, maps where boss summom too many mobs or give that immortal buff is a little painfull cuz the SRS doesnt target the boss(peninsula)

I did some changes in the skill tree, got the "exeptional performance" for more duration, some jewel sockets(jewels with 15% minion gem) and almost all nodes with life regeneration, now i have 580 life regen with stone golem.

You'll do much better damage with the SRS setup in your helmet :)

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Fangheart25 wrote:

Thank you for helping to make The Baron outrageously expensive.

It's funny how it took a few known content creators to push it to this limit considering both me & TheUberElite as well as Karv and many many more has been abusing the overpowered Baron helmet since release. Not until we get 2 guides up the community explodes about it :/

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BearMauling wrote:

How would Victarios Influence be for this build? Could it help me as a budget option before baron or does it work after baron or not at all worth it?


And what do you think of Baron + Covenant + United in Dream?

I wouldn't personally bother it, however, it's a nice piece if you plan on going for a NecroBot playstyle later.

You need that 6L, poison is far less good for SRS since 3.0.

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TsunaH wrote:

Is it worth getting a nycta lantern for the weapon while waiting for the baron ?

Absolutely is!

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kyle25 wrote:

Newbie here, how do I get that much dex for GMP?

You don't need GMP at any high lvl tbh, but a high dexterity amulet will help you tons till you get that Astramentis! :)

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RonnieLee wrote:

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Fangheart25 wrote:

Thank you for helping to make The Baron outrageously expensive.

Its not Ghazzy or any one else who is making Baron expensive. Looking at the numbers available, it seems probable that GGG nerfed the drop rate. That's why its expensive. The good thing though, Astramentis seems to be pretty affordable.

You can totally play this build without the Baron.

Also try chancing close helmets, which I'm starting to do.

By the way, thanks for the build, Ghazzy.

I've been asking around about this, it doesn't seem as the Baron got changed drop rates, the problem is that there are thousands of players playing the build so every available helmet gets bought instantly.

But yeah, chancing is the easiest & best way atm.
Cheers bro <3

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Imurgod wrote:

Stone golem dies every pull! only at Act 5 currently, really worry how is it gonna be viable end game?

He should be better at surviving at higher lvls.
Even more so with Baron equipped later on.

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bigp3rm wrote:

Anyone have a final gear/gem load out for this guide? I'm confused AF. plx halp.

Afraid my character testing was made in Beta so can't link from there.

However, the stat priority & uniques are all listed in the guide? :S

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wiwigvn wrote:

Baron's price is ridiculous right now on Harbinger. I think it's no longer a league starter/budget build anymore. Ofc, it's not Ghazzy's fault, probably it's a dropping rate nerf (there's only like 3 on poe.trade now wtf?)

Hey,

The build works very well without the Baron. It has not been nerfed, it's because thousands of players are playing the build.

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neurotech wrote:

Ghazzy, have you tried using Meginord's Vise gloves with this build?

Never used it, did some theorycrafting on it and came with the conclusion that is is horrible compared to Grip of the Council or any other rare gloves imo.

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neurotech wrote:

Why not pick the Blood Magic notable? The build goes right past it.

Because you can't run crucial auras for the build if you chose the BM keystone :)

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Norse wrote:

This build suitable for going selffound? Whats the easiest way of obtaining the helmet, and what to stick to if u only got trash items? im lvl 45 atm.

It is absolutely great for SSF, TheUberElite did his version in SSF hitting #1 necromancer in Mayhem race.

Chancing "Close Helmets" is your best way tbh.

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ajaxpl wrote:

Baron is too expensive :( I didn't drop CLOSE HELMET! wtf? I have now 72 lvl and dropped 0 close helmet. So how i can chance him?

BTW 72 lvl, without baron and it's pretty nice

Hey,

I got about 20 of them before I hit lvl 30, are you sure your Loot Filter is displaying them?

Yeah, the build works GREAT without Baron as well. Some people doesn't understand that and are super salty cause of the f*cked up prices atm.

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Hcw87 wrote:

I'm a little confused when it comes to gearing.

As far as i understand, strength and physical damage is what i'm supposed to go for, does that mean i can use a 2H maul for that matter as long as the links are good? Mauls usually have lots of added physical damage, does that transfer over to minions? Same with armor, should i focus on armor and strength instead of ES/int?

Never physical damage, it doesn't work with minions.
You can use a 2h Mace as well as you can still put BM craft on that, however, the only way to get +2 fire gems in that as described in the guide, you'll need to use the Shrieking Essence of Rage to essence craft it :)

Regarding armour/evasion/intelligence, simply use what ever base you need for your sockets (int = blue / evasion = green / armour = red) and strive for the stat priorities listed in the guide.

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wiwigvn wrote:

I think the nerf to Baron does not cripple this build anyway since SRS is still pretty strong this league (even with the damage nerf) but it's still a letdown...

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Hcw87 wrote:

I'm a little confused when it comes to gearing.

As far as i understand, strength and physical damage is what i'm supposed to go for, does that mean i can use a 2H maul for that matter as long as the links are good? Mauls usually have lots of added physical damage, does that transfer over to minions? Same with armor, should i focus on armor and strength instead of ES/int?

No. Minions only benefit from anything says "minions" in it (and auras, which are why you run Hatred and Haste). All other mods only benefit yourselves. It's the key difference between minions and "extension of yourself" such as totems and traps.

BIS for weapon should be a staff since you can roll +1 all gem and +2 fire gem (i.e. +3 for SRS gem) but as you can read in the first page, it's fine to use a +2 fire 2H just to save the cost (cheaper, since SRS Staff is kinda meta for several leagues already).

Baron was not nerfed AFAIK.

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Kaizerbgr wrote:

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neurotech wrote:

Alternatively, you can add this to make any kind of Close Helmet be a big green rectangle + play a sound:

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SetFontSize 45
SetTextColor 255 255 255 255
SetBorderColor 0 210 0 210
PlayAlertSound 1 300
BaseType "Close Helmet"
SetBackgroundColor 0 255 12

where does one put this in the filter? Can you post a pic please?

Also what 6th gem would u guys suggest empower, multistrike or?

If you're using NeverSinks regular filter, open it with wordpad or something and CTRL+F and search for "Glorious Plate" or "Sorcerer Boots" which will bring you to those drops which are chance base drops available via that filter, and simply just add "Close Helmet" in the filter, save, reload it in-game and you're done.

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gokudin wrote:

to sustain the SRS i'm using blood magic, i'm not killing myself cuz i give a lot of attention to life regen now i have 800 life regen/sec.

to craft the staff u need a white 6L Staff and just use a lot of alts till u got +2 fire gems.

I Spend almost 200 alt and i cant so i tried with a alch+scouring to input and remove specs at the fist alch i got that lol

Edit: Now i'll try a ULab run

Nice, gogo :)

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Imurgod wrote:

Is generosity+hatred helpful at all for SRS? most of times I think spirits just ran out of range attacking something, besides, we do want to attack in range not face-tanking anything. how well does hatred effect SRS? anyone tested yet?

They will almost always be in range, it is the highest damage providing aura in the game for them, so yes it is absolutely worth it! :)

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elegant wrote:

I have never thought to try and go the chancing route to obtain a specific unique. Given the cost of the baron currently, should i give it a go? How many of you have actually acquired a build-enabling unique this way? Surely the amount of chances you'd spend would better go toward saving up for one that someone's selling, right?

I guess the question isn't new, and is just the nature of gambling with currency, but was wondering what you guys thought about it.

Lower Tier Uniques are "easier" to chance than higher tier once, afaik Baron requires around 50 helmets ( AVERAGELY ).

And yes, I would absolutely recommend it with the current market.

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Hobben wrote:

With baron so expensive im trying to extend my time without it. I happened to get a essence worm drop so figured i could toss my hatred in it and go MOM to try and cover the cost of moving up to 5l.

Anyone tried to use MOM to cover SRS mana cost?

Also can confirm act 10 and Kitava were horrible, although GGG history does own our faces with new acts so im sure well get used to it (or it will get balanced, i'm looking at you Heretical Wards!)\

hob

Hatred benefits A LOT from Generosity so I wouldn't recommend using that at all.
You cover SRS mana cost by having it in a 4L as the guide describes and only move over to Blood Magic when you have a 6L either via BM support or BM benchcraft.

is this a viable endgame build? I previously played an SRS energy shield build but with the nerf to energy shield and damage reduction to SRS I had some concerns.

Thank you for the reply. Loving the build so far and having no trouble without baron in act 10. One more gearing question though. Im using brightbreak right now to go fast with SRS in geofris helm till i get a +2 helm. Would nyctas lantern be better for now until i get +2? And would nyctas be worth using as a weapon without SRS socketed or would brightbeak be better if the SRS is in a +2 helm?

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Ghazzy wrote:

-A bunch of stuff-

Hey, Gaz- Have you seen this thread on reddit about crafting a +3 weapon in a deterministic manner? Apparently if you take a maul and throw a shrieking essence of rage on in for the +2 Fire gem, you then use the new Orb of Annulment to remove the other mods. Then use Catarina's "cannot roll attack mods" and boom, the only mods left will include +1 to all gems when you exalt it. You cannot roll cast speed as mauls won't roll it, but you will probably get a resist or two. From there, remove the cannot roll attack mods thing and then add blood magic.

I haven't done it myself, but it sounds like a grand old time. What do you think?

Thread I saw this in: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/6s48r9/how_to_easily_get_a_3_to_fire_weapon_with_vagan/

Im literally having a blast right now ! The spirits are just melting every mobs they meet. It's a little bit slow against bosses cuz i dont have Vaal Lightning Trap tho.

I recently upgraded some gears and managed to cap my res.




Im saving to get astramentis since im struggling to get enough dex to upgrade Vaal Haste. But other than that , the build feel pretty awesome.

Lvl 65 sitting at 3k7 hp for now.