The Ascendant Class Changes

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鬼殺し wrote:

Bet she still has epic derp face though.

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HQuality wrote:

still not on par with other classes (especially w pathfinder) but much better
thanks!

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lif44 wrote:

Honestly, this wont change much. Unless the original ascendancies got nerfed to shit, they still will be better as long as the uber lab for scion is mediocre.

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Ashriel wrote:

Yeah, this is pretty underwhelming. This was not the rework we needed.

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OneOfDaZZZ wrote:

The problem with scion is the first ascendancy is worthless... Every other class gets gets q boost and scion gets the shaft.

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TreeOfDead wrote:

What about other classes? They wont be changed at all?

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Achilion wrote:

Meh. Not excited at all. Actually kinda dissapointed.

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CaptainWARLORD wrote:

I stopped reading after I saw "build defining" and then took a look at Necromancer and the "Offering Skills also affect you" is not there. That's mostly why I even use it. Still gonna play Necro instead. Screw this.

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ZaM wrote:

Wow, these are really weak changes to Scion. Might get a 5-10% bump in the number of people playing Scion after these changes but this is far from making the class competitive whatsoever.

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Vhlad wrote:

I wouldn't call that having the defining features of other ascendancy classes...

For occultist, it's wicked ward

For necro, it's having offerings affect you and ias/cast speed/damage per aura, scaled by aura effectiveness.

For elementalist, it's ele immune golems or free prolif. Conflux is ok but not the defining characteristic any more since the nerf, or if it was needed for a build the scion version is too situational to make the build reliable.

For chieftain, it's fire immune taunt totems

For berserker, it's cloaked in savagery (along with 100% uptime dual leech)

For pathfinder, it's a flask charge every 3s and status ailment immunity, along with lots of flask effect scaling

For guardian, it's radiant faith.

For inquisitor, it's inevitable judgment.

For gladiator, it's versatile combatant.

and so on

These are the defining features that determine which ascendancy we choose. They are the foundation upon which we build our character on. The scion is missing these in almost every case.

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Tuadh wrote:

Unfortunately, not a significant change, but a good start!

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Vhlad wrote:

I wouldn't call that having the defining features of other ascendancy classes...

For occultist, it's wicked ward

For necro, it's having offerings affect you and ias/cast speed/damage per aura, scaled by aura effectiveness.

For elementalist, it's ele immune golems or free prolif. Conflux is ok but not the defining characteristic any more since the nerf, or if it was needed for a build the scion version is too situational to make the build reliable.

For chieftain, it's fire immune taunt totems

For berserker, it's cloaked in savagery (along with 100% uptime dual leech)

For pathfinder, it's a flask charge every 3s and status ailment immunity, along with lots of flask effect scaling

For guardian, it's radiant faith.

For inquisitor, it's inevitable judgment.

For gladiator, it's versatile combatant.

and so on

These are the defining features that determine which ascendancy we choose. They are the foundation upon which we build our character on. The scion is missing these in almost every case.