[2.6] CI FrostBlades Raider/Pathfinder [Permafreeze T15 bosses, 4:17 Shaper Run, 1:49 Chayula timer]

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Pjey wrote:

Hello again Inva! Going superwell with your build so far, level 90 and killing guardians easy and killed shaper my first attempt without having 20/20 gems and no skyforth!

Here's my current gear setup:

At the moent i'm kinda happy with it, I'm sitting around 7,7k es and it works great. Only times I'm really dying is becuase of my own misstakes. I'm sitting here thinking. Skin of the lords, the next level of this chest. I know it got big passive tree skills attached to it, but which one would benefit this build the most? Thinking of investing in one of those instead of going for a Vaal Regalia, or Speldour. Which one should I am for?


Regards
Pjey

Hello Pjey! Gratz on killing shaper! :D

If you truly want to upgrade your chest to a skin of the lords, the only really significant keystone that would help you at this point would be one with the Unwavering Stance keystone as that would enable you to drop valyrium. If you can't find that then I would recommend getting an Atziri's Splendour (the ES variant). a vaal regalia is really more of a luxury option for when you're 100% satisfied with the rest of your gear (because of the difficulty in colouring it).

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puncayshun wrote:

OK I forgot about the bisco's I was wearing, I have a decent rare amulet that I have now put on. My vs. Shaper DPS is now 2.06 million, and that's with PoB-edited perfect DPS steel rings, Invalesco's claw, I put in 2 more points to take Coordination, and I made perfect jewels and put those in all my slots. With all this, I'm still quite a ways off from Invalesco's DPS. Here's my PoB with all of this if someone wants to take a look https://pastebin.com/JPR867eV. Basically I'm trying to figure all the ways I can improve my DPS, since I am apparently missing some sources of damage I don't know about.

Hey! I've had a look at your PoB pastebin:

Just to add to what Tanakeah said, there are other sources of damage that haven't been taken into account:

1. Your PoB is taking into account your enfeeble rather than elemental weakness
2. Versus shaper and other tough bosses, the best enchant would be damage penetrates 10% elemental resistances.

The above two should take your effective dps to >2.3 million

The rest of the difference would then likely be due to differences in amulet (mine provides much higher base flat damage), as well as dex and int, which Tanakeah has mentioned, both of which grant flat accuracy with dex also granting %melee phys damage on top of that.

Heya! I'm just starting a character for this build and I've been stocking up on relevant gems, gear, leveling gear etc. to be ready for the journey.

I'm a bit of a noob in PoE still, having only played a few builds with little understanding before Legacy, and there's a few things I don't understand in your guide - specifically about skill gems.

First, I'm not sure about the levels of some utility gems:

- For the CWDT setup should I stick to level 1 CWDT to maximize uptime on them, and so keep the gems level req <38?

- Is there any reason to level up Shield Charge or Flame Dash?

Second, what's the purpose of Ancestral Warchief in this build? Everything else makes sense to me: they either increase damage or survivability. But as there's no explanation for utility gems (ofc most of them are pretty obvious) I have no idea about this one.

Thanks for the guide!

@DawnBlue


1. The level of CWDT is something that is not set in stone and often times (from what I've seen) is left up to personal taste. Some prefer it at a lower level, while others would rather have the level higher, and this can also be related to gear. Those that have lesser gear and lower defenses might want the gem at a lower level so it will proc at a time when it's most needed. On the other hand, others have better gear and don't need the gem at low levels, but higher ones so that it coincides with their defensive level. Best thing to do is to experiment and see what works for you, and if the gem is leveled too high, you can always use the 'Gem + Orb of Scouring' vendor recipe to lower the gem one level at a time until you find what works for you.

2. Leveling up Shield Charge is mostly to increase the base damage that the skill will do when you strike an enemy with it. As the mana cost remains the same (8 mana base before any other mana multipliers from support gems linked to it) there's no real downside to leveling it, save increasing the Strength cost required to use it.

3. Ancestral Warchief is a totem that - when active - gives you up to 18% MORE Melee Damage, so it's basically another 'More Multiplier' to add onto the others we get in this build. The totem is used to buff the melee portion of Frost Blades, which is what you'll hit bosses with most of the time, so having the totem down makes it even more powerful. And if anything, it gives another temporary target for an enemy to potentially attack and draw some ire away from you, even if not for long.

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Tanakeah wrote:

@DawnBlue

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1. The level of CWDT is something that is not set in stone and often times (from what I've seen) is left up to personal taste. Some prefer it at a lower level, while others would rather have the level higher, and this can also be related to gear. Those that have lesser gear and lower defenses might want the gem at a lower level so it will proc at a time when it's most needed. On the other hand, others have better gear and don't need the gem at low levels, but higher ones so that it coincides with their defensive level. Best thing to do is to experiment and see what works for you, and if the gem is leveled too high, you can always use the 'Gem + Orb of Scouring' vendor recipe to lower the gem one level at a time until you find what works for you.

2. Leveling up Shield Charge is mostly to increase the base damage that the skill will do when you strike an enemy with it. As the mana cost remains the same (8 mana base before any other mana multipliers from support gems linked to it) there's no real downside to leveling it, save increasing the Strength cost required to use it.

3. Ancestral Warchief is a totem that - when active - gives you up to 18% MORE Melee Damage, so it's basically another 'More Multiplier' to add onto the others we get in this build. The totem is used to buff the melee portion of Frost Blades, which is what you'll hit bosses with most of the time, so having the totem down makes it even more powerful. And if anything, it gives another temporary target for an enemy to potentially attack and draw some ire away from you, even if not for long.

Thank you for answering. I must have completely missed the part where Ancestral Warchief gives damage... makes hell of a lot sense now!

Also thanks for the detailed CWDT explanation - and I do see indeed there's no harm in leveling Shield Charge :)

Hello!

I've got almost everything for the build, but I don't have the damage Oo not even close.



Tooltips:
163k - auras
190k - auras + totem
488k - auras + totem + flasks

What am I doing wrong? (trying to find how to share my gear or character view)

Thank you.

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Waspusher wrote:

Hello!

I've got almost everything for the build, but I don't have the damage Oo not even close.

Tooltips:
163k - auras
190k - auras + totem
488k - auras + totem + flasks

What am I doing wrong?

Thank you.

Heya! u'll have to change your characters tab to public - i can't see your character.

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Invalesco wrote:

Heya! u'll have to change your characters tab to public - i can't see your character.

Done.

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Waspusher wrote:

Hello!

I've got almost everything for the build, but I don't have the damage Oo not even close.



Tooltips:
163k - auras
190k - auras + totem
488k - auras + totem + flasks

What am I doing wrong? (trying to find how to share my gear or character view)

Thank you.

Ok, so took a look at your character and a few things pop out to me as to why your DPS is lower than what you might be expecting.

1. Your jewelry is overall lacking a bit. I know you're likely trying to fill in resists and the like, but you're lacking Intelligence on your rings as well as Energy shield rolls in general. Getting either one of those will boost your ES up, which might allow you to swap some nodes around on the tree and pickup more damage instead of needing defense. Also, Intelligence will boost your accuracy as well, which will help some, too. In fact, if you can, try and get some Intelligence rolls on your helm and shield as well...those will help. You're sitting at around 293 Intelligence and that's a bit low compared to Invalesco and myself.

But as for your jewelry...aside from what's stated above, your amulet is sorely lacking in DPS stats. The flat physical is nice, but you're devoid of Critical Strike chance and Critical Strike Multiplier on there. Replace the amulet with something that has those and try to get physical damage as well if possible. That will be a big help.

2. Your overall Critical Strike Multiplier is a bit low...you've got about 389% CSM, compared to Invalesco, who's sporting around 500% or so if I recall. If you can boost that up a bit with jewels, rolls on the amulet, or other places, then that will give you a needed boost as well.

3. You're missing the flask cluster, Jewel socket, and Power Charge up near the Witch area. As you've gone Pathfinder you'll want to take those nodes, plus teh extra Jewel socket means you can add on more stats like CSM for better power.

4. Keep on leveling your gems as well and those will boost up your damage little by little as you go along.

I will work on it.

Thank you.

Having a lot of fun!
Looking for suggestions to improve the damage and the character as a whole. Char name: FrostySun
Thanks in advance!

Damage in Hideout : 127K with Hatred+ HoA + Golem