[2.6] Zombie summoner - 6 Big Zombies
" There was an explanation guide somewhere that desecrate can spawn corpses of your current spectres when you enter new map. So you can get spectres in Old Fields then enter T16 map and spam desecrate till you see your spectres corpses and summon them. |
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What shield shoould I get for this build? Tri res or double res + str
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for chieftains .. fields -> desecrate spam in an map above tier 8 will get your a suitably tanky minion (under the assumption you have at-least some form of life regen for the poor bastards
as for shields str on a shield generally means you have to use a hybrid base if i recall, not certain.. but i think that is the case. frankly resist are only a major problem for this build if you use 1 queen escape for faster clearing (ie 2 hander) 2 use umbilicus .. though sadly umbilicus is probably going to die unless ggg does something drastic about how horrible it is for personal clear speed .. summoners rely too much qs flasks so if you dont use those 2 otherwise dead slot items (from a stat perspective) the only reason not to rock a str shield is if you are already over your current str break point .. ie 1000 or 1200 also keep in mind that once 3.0 hits .. poison is not going to be that useful for zombie builds . Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Jun 23, 2017, 7:37:58 AM
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" On the topic of clearspeed: I was very disappointed with it at first. And I did not want to use Queens Decree or Umbilicus. So I spent some moneys on Shrieking Essences of Fear and made these two rings: Now my Zombies are faster than me while I am using and the travel time between hits is so much faster. Clearspeed went up a TON. I am convinced getting two movementspeed rings is easily the best clearspeed upgrade you can do. It might even be worth it to spend 1-2 passives on resists if the rings cause you problems with resists. I would rather have the clear speed rings than 2 passives. We can get either 12% all res from the "Elementalist" node left of Templar start for 1 passive or 15% all res for two passives from "Diamond Skin" left of Marauder start. Or what might be the best one, 10% all res for two passives from "Sentinel" south of Scion start. This would also give us 10 strenght and a bunch of evasion and armour. If you already have 1200 str anyway it might be a good idea to give up one of the 30 str nodes and get Sentinel either way. I have taken Sentinel for now until I manage to get a movement speed+str+cold res ring. Was a bit unlucky to get 2x fire res on rings... Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jun 23, 2017, 1:25:35 PM
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" I can give you a few reasons why its not as great as you think 1 legacy league is artificially propping up all the league content. this is something people dont appreciate but pretty much all the old league content isnt actually viable at all under vanilla rates. essence on standard is horrible , too rare to target craft anything. the current availability of essence on legacy is probably about 4 - 6 times greater than vanilla and 10 - 20 times greater than the dead economy on standard. so once legacy ends .. you are going to be in for one massive shock by how shit the vanilla values are. 2 resists on the baron build is really really really hard to cap if you use all the recommended uniques .. it is so bad that i took the scion resist jewel socket on mine and i am not over capped enough to do eleweakness maps 3 generally summoners want unset rings because of all the qol things they have to roll with. but you are correct minion speed is huge it is why queens escape is considered the best summoner unique weapon in the game. i would consider 2x unset rings with str resists and life as your top tier stretch goal .. but i would emphasize stretch goal. you aint getting them in 3.0 any time soon and god forbid if ggg actually fixes summoner qol .. i can make a safe bet the fear essence market will be poisoned by soulless flippers every top tier summoner knows very well the value of minion speed .. its when everyone else starts to catch on that i am worried about Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Jun 23, 2017, 2:11:51 PM
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" 1 We are in legacy league so I can easily use essences. I have played thousands of hours in the last 3 years, why would the end of Legacy league shock me? oO And I very much disagree that noone appreciates how easily available many things are in Legacy. Only players that have started in Legacy could think it will be easy to get Essence crafts or Breach uniques in the next league. And at this moment I think the best bet for 3.0 will be Minion Speed Support instead of Poison. And buy up some Screaming+ of Fear trying to get a good ring. 2 Of course resists are a problem. I am just not doing Ele Weakness maps at the moment, so I am perfectly fine with my resists at this time. Also I play LSC, so I am ok with normal capped resists. I used resist rings to get there. 3 Of course the end goal would be Unset rings, but at this point of the league I don't care enough to dump too many exalts into this build. This was just my very first try to play a summoner, apart from Golemancer. Essence of Fear market was already a big focus for flippers. Back when the primordial jewels came out and the Golemancer build was posted on this forum the prices went from nothing to 10c+ for one Shrieking Essence of fear. Same will happen when GGG finally gives some love for oldschool summoners. At that point you can just be happy that Mathil absolutely hates Summoners, so no mathil effect coming at least. Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Jun 23, 2017, 3:19:08 PM
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"And at this moment I think the best bet for 3.0 will be Minion Speed Support instead of Poison. And buy up some Screaming+ of Fear trying to get a good ring."
still dont think it is is fully appreciated just how bad it actually is regardless the point is that it is probably not a good idea to view any essence craft as a build certainty due to how rng dependent they are.. that is i suppose where i am getting at in all of this. Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Jun 23, 2017, 7:36:36 PM
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just forget about zombies in 3.0 and play SRS with queen escape
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you can technically do both
i already sand boxed a build that uses 6l queen escape with spirits and 4l zombies half the reason to go baron is to get the leech from zombies. even 4l zombies can get you a very respectable amount of juicy leech back |
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You should add to your guide the lycosidae shield + necromantic aegis.
Zombies have only 60% accuracy (data from path of building) With 100% dmg gets nearly doubled. I have this info from a reddit user and wondered myself how accurate zombies are. Zombies with RT / Lycosidae very nice! Edit: Im sure somebody else mentioned that lyco thing in this thread, sorry, dear user^^ But why it is not in the guide ? Last edited by DiamondSnake#0898 on Jul 2, 2017, 10:13:15 AM
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