[2.6] Zombie summoner - 6 Big Zombies
" I am still updating the OP but I ould probably path towards the lowlife/ci variant while taking all the easily accessible health notes and play hybrid. If I can go lowlife I'll probably try that first This league I have a feeling zombies will be decent quite early so I'll try to incorporate them as I go, but besides that good leveling skills to go with them are usually something like firestorm and then bladefall. I'll add a "leveling" section soon |
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" Thanks for the answers gonna play this build as my starter for legacy and see where it goes :) Last edited by Harakens#4685 on Mar 3, 2017, 4:20:55 AM
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Could this be a nice addition with SRS? I feel like there is a happy medium between going full zombie and adding SRS somewhere into the mix, or am I spreading too thin.
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" You most likely want to cast something to "steer" your zombies with, and a 4L SRS seems pretty good for this, you don't even need to spec into duration nodes with the new SRS cap. (Usually I use The Vertex for 4L SRS, it is perfect with the reduced mana cost and +1 gems). |
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Yup, srs is perfectly viable on a 4-link to go with 6-linked Zombies. One of my favourite builds from breach was basically a chaos srs / flame golem build where I did exactly that. I linked srs to minion damage, melee splash and added chaos and stuck it in my hat. Helped me clear harder things for sure, such as Chayula's Domain.
I'm sure something similar can be done here, especially with lowlife and lots of auras. |
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" While it's a more expensive route I would suggest getting Severed in Sleep early on it might cost around 20c or more but it will free up a link in your zombies (gives poison on hit) AND it will heal your zombies when they kill something that has been poisoned (aka anything they hit) United in Dream is hands down BiS weapon for summoner period. poison on hit + lvl 15 Envy aura (chaos damage aura for more poison damage) and minions leech 5% of the poison damage they do as life per hit. I started league last season with a Necro summoner running 9 zombies (4 linked) and 3 spectres (4 linked) and SRS (only used 2 link but it was to help with zombie AI and targeting) I didn't get Severed in Sleep or United in dream because i changed builds early on but soon as i got to 70 i was able to do T7 yellow maps with any mod and i had crap gear. Was running 9 aura's. The buff from necromancer is just so much that you want as many auras as you can manage. So life ES hybrid and taking low life node for massive increase in damage. Last league the guy who made the build i decided to try was running t15s with his setup and he didnt have anything more than 4 linked. (SRS spectres zombies where all only 4link). Could drop spectres all together (i find them super annoying to summon) and just run zombies and golem and then use SRS for directing. With the new jewel zombies should be pretty strong. In 2.5 the guy calculated that each of his zombies did around 26k damage (pre united in dream) and he had 9 of them and they where only 4 linked. If you went united in dream for weapon your 6 link could be.... Zombies-melee phys-minion phys- faster attack- minion speed- multistrike/added fire/fortify/minion life/OR if you can find a way to apply bleeds 100% of the time yourself you can slot bloodlust for a pretty hefty boost in damage across the board that will also double dip with your posion from United in dream. Last edited by KuraiArashi#5546 on Mar 3, 2017, 8:28:08 AM
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The reason I don't advocate for united in dream are:
1) Envy aura does it best with many smaller hits - it's great for SRS or if you have, as you say, 10 zombies with faster attacks and whatnot. However, we're going for the newly buffed Mon'Tregul's Grasp to try that out and will work the clearspeed via increasing that AoE with the infernal blow and the slam. 2) It comes down to it, the first blessing of chayula we obtain would be best spent on a presence of chayula. United in dream is a great weapon and very possibly something for the endgame, but not necessarily needed. We will see. 3) You are listing a lot of support gems that don't necessarily increase the damage of our minions. Everything I've seen so far hints at GGG wanting to make the zombie's special ability way better, with that in mind it's what I've decided to try scaling first. |
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envy aura in any combination is NEVER good with zombies . for the same reason why the added chaos gem in any zombie build is NEVER good.
zombies have implicitly high base damage and implicitly low attack speed . this means they are terrible with added damage sources. you should under no circumstance use flat damage on zombies. the only way you can use montre and united in dream is in 2 situations 1 you are a life build wtihout umbilicus 2 you are using a high es 6l +1 zombie chest as ci and can use umbilicus . but this will mean your zombies are capped at gem level 24 which imo is a pretty low level for end game zombies. level is the most important stat for zombies . it is their accuracy , it is their armor , it is their damage , their hit points. everything works because the base is solid. so i caution anyone rolling zombies .. do not sacrifice gem levels for anything if you can help it. as for srs or another castable minion .. you can do it .. but i wouldn't because really it goes against the flavor of an actual zombie build you go zombies most so that you dont have to spend time every pack summoning 20 minions that die 10 seconds later. this means you can open your play style up to casting supporting skills for the zombies to make them on par with other skills in terms of base damage potential. zombies are technically the lowest dps minion in the game .. yes even skeletons have a higher damage potential however zombies have the highest buff potential in the game .. you can do a metric butt-ton of things to juice up a zombie that is normally not practical for other builds .. So while you can do srs and infact i strongly recommend srs while leveling any summoner .. for the sake of really tasting an actual zombie build i strong suggest not using temporary minions.. and simply see how far you can go with making the zombies your total focus Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Mar 3, 2017, 9:34:38 AM
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The SRS is only to steer the zombies and a little extra dmg.
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bandits?
what lvl for CWDT - IC? Last edited by wsbisev#0627 on Mar 3, 2017, 12:12:33 PM
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