Ascendency points and Oriath (aka remove Labyrinth mandatoriness)

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The_Reporter wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

Im just seriously annoyed by that all whining.

"I dont like bigmacs so mcdonalds should remove them from their offer, because I DONT LIKE THEM and no matter that there are people who enjoy it".

This is the same "I dont like lab so GGG should remove it, because I DONT LIKE IT, and it is no matter that there are others who enjoys it".

Reality doesnt work that way. If someon dont like something that is HIS/HER problem, not service/offer provider. Adapt to changes and stop whining.

I can understand stability issues because recently i also had them. My PC was crashing after 4-5 instances so doing lab was kinda risky. But doable - just fast pace. After some patches problem - at least for me - dissapeard but still im doing this as fas as i can. But cmon be serious and stop looking at everything from only your own point of view.

I think you problems here lie in your inability to process the information in the op and thread.

Nobody is asking for the labyrinth to be removed. They are asking for the separation of ascendancy classes from it.

Read, comprehend & prosper!

this^ soooo much this

keep the lab and its enchants but at least give us an alternative way to ascend

My 2c: When I want to play trine I play trine. I come here for the mobs and monstas, not bullshit traps.

OK ive read OPs first post carefully and mea maxima culpa.

But in general you can find a lot of threads with whining about lab, i just found the most popular one and stated what i wanted to say.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

I do hate lab too.
Remove it, make it to be some unique map for those two players who actually like it.

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Mezion wrote:

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Imarion wrote:

Wonder how a company can afford to bypass potential customers nowadays.

But as long as they are happy and the salaries get paid ... :)

Imarion

I really hate what you're implying, that they should make things easier to satisfy the casual players.
This is not what the game stand, or used to stand for. Most of the game is easy enough right now, where clearing trash mobs and getting to T14-T15 is faster than ever, and I'm happy to have the lab as a challenge. I see a lot of people in global820 helping each other for the lab and trials, and its great, its PoE at its best.

I really hate what you're implying, that they should leave tedious and unfun content as is, just so people can have their patience challenged (as opposed to their skill) and thereby feel "hardcore."

This is not what the game stands, or used to stand, for. We grind because grinding is fun, because grinding is a form of play for us. Right now the Labyrinth has more in common with a job than with a game--why else would players exist who declare that they run it regularly and yet hate it? The Labyrinth needs to be harder, not easier, and your characterization of of detractors as "casual players wanting things made easier for them" is both false and a red herring. :)

As for the Big Mac analogy, it only works if you HAVE to eat the Big Mac before they even let you into the McDonald's to choose your meal set. If you don't know any McDonald's that forces you to eat something you dislike before you can even order, then it should be obvious to you that your analogy is fundamentally broken.

They spent too much time and money designing the lab only to throw it away now.

It's like ggg's precious version of google+

The Lab it's a Pain in the ASS!!!

You can get accustomed to be whiped in the Ass..

But it doesnt make it more pleasent experience

(at least in me humble opinion)

Especially uber Trials and Uber Lab... oooo Goshhh

Please GGG change something about it...

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鬼殺し wrote:

Chris confirmed that at the moment, the labyrinth will remain in Sarn in 3.0. It'll have three difficulties you can choose from, and there'll be a fourth, the Uber Labyrinth. Ascendancy points will remain the reward: 2x4.

He did say, however, that the lower difficulty Labyrinth(s) will be reviewed in terms of size. It's quite likely the normal Labyrinth will have at least one entire zone removed. This is welcome news, even to those of us who like the Labyrinth. Even for us, it's just too damn long.

Good news that GGG aren't totally caving into the whiners and people who want everything handed to them on a plate.

The lab isn't in any way mandatory, if you don't want to spend 15 minutes doing something that will make your character more powerful than any other 15 minutes spent in game then don't do it maybe?

Lab is not too long, it's too crap.

Lab is not too hard, it's too crap.

I can appreciate the work that went into something I hate, it's beautiful, it's cool in theory.

It's also completely against the spirit of why most of us play aRPG's.

It's tedious crappy crap crap, and content shouldn't be gated behind a giant crap wall.

Want to make a new alternative a lot harder? I would love that. Just... No more of this crap.