We will fight Nazi-themed monsters in 3.0

Oh my. They confirmed that this design will stand in their new videos.

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Kaizerbgr wrote:

...romans...nazis

Any empire is aggressive, or otherwise it wouldn't be defined as one. One of the conditions to define the word "empire" is if it rules over other countries/peoples. The latter could be conquered by force, or fell under the foreing civilization by themself, erasing their identity. In both cases there's force - either miliary, or cultural/religious.
Domination by force makes the world go round.

On a side note, the romans were a source of civilization which has proven to be so successfull that it has its influence even nowadays, around 2 millennia later.

It's pure nonsense to compare romans to the nazis.
Former were and expanding and prosperous civilization with its culture, religions, science, technologies and military art, with a great positive impact over the ancient and even the modern world, for a long period of time.
Latter were a short lasting regional event, with motives driven by idiotic doctrines which served only to a certain clique, thus brought nothing but destruction (the impact was overly negative).

If the act of applying force to achieve certain goals is considered by you to be the definition of equality between the events, then you are wrong.

Also, there's no "if" in history.

This just in: Lunaris temple is and has always been a concentration camp reference.

This just in: The bad Charlie Chaplin of history also believed in the supernatural and achieving the divine, like Dominus and Malachai.

They aren't "adding" anything, they are just expanding on what the game is already established on. I'm sorry if people didn't notice the similarities in the past.

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torturo wrote:

It's pure nonsense to compare romans to the nazis.

Pure nonsense? You are missing one thing. History has thought us that the romans were a GREAT civilization maybe the greatest of its time. But there was no media back then. The world was uninformed of the brutal acts the romans commited and from ear to ear the world thought that they are prosperous because of their culture, science, etc. We will never truly know what brutal acts were made behind the curtains of the Roman empire. The nazis simply had no luck because global medial was growing really fast back then. Newspapers, telegrams, etc etc, so the world knew what they are up to. If the nazis were succesful and there was no global media we would think now(under their control) that they were amazing.

So there are many factors of what makes an empire great. The romans might have been very advanced for their time but they werent peaceful. They promoted adultry, violence, murder etc. The nazis followed that example but the world now was too quick to learn what is really going on. Who knows what great inventions might the nazis come up with if the won. What great architectual and scientific wonders they could have achieved. Just the wrong century. ^^

I again apologize for my bad english ^^. AND! I am no fan of the nazi ideology!

Also ofcourse theirs an "if" in history..
It is used so it can define the future. History always repeats itself and you need the if in history so you dont repeat the course that you might thought wrong in the past.

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torturo wrote:

It's pure nonsense to compare romans to the nazis.
Former were and expanding and prosperous civilization with its culture, religions, science, technologies and military art, with a great positive impact over the ancient and even the modern world, for a long period of time.

Or it just might be that the romans succeeded and the nazi failed. If Europe could be solidified like it was in the Roman days, and I'm not talking about this union nonsense, that might mean it could focus its resources on advancement instead of wasting it on keeping the flotsam raft in one piece. It might be one of the superpowers today instead of comic relief, who knows.

But yeah, the price was always too high to pay, both in the Roman or WW2 days.

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Apos91 wrote:

This just in: Lunaris temple is and has always been a concentration camp reference.

This just in: The bad Charlie Chaplin of history also believed in the supernatural and achieving the divine, like Dominus and Malachai.

They aren't "adding" anything, they are just expanding on what the game is already established on. I'm sorry if people didn't notice the similarities in the past.

Thank you. someone who got the lunaris reference

I still say they should have used the black-red-white color pattern from the blackguard tents and not the red-white-black from the Nazis.It would retain at least a hint of subtlety.

We do know a lot about the acts of violence of the romans. But at the end it's not what defines their contribution to the humanity, nor their empire.
Human lives don't matter much in historical plan, what's important is the consequences of certain historical periods and events over the human history.

When you hear the word "roman", the first you think about is science, engineerig, art, military art.
Word "nazi" is related to destruction and brings only negative emotions, as was their impact over the human history. And not because they were mythologized as devils by the propaganda (which is also there), but because that's what they did at the end.

I'm not one of those who is used to demonize the nazi Germany. I actually sypathize to the germans, I know their motives and the reasons behind Hitler's election. Germans were actual victims.
But what I dislike is the nazis in particular - a socialistic party driven by idiotic doctrines, socialism alone aside. So idiotic, that if you take your time to read about the lebensraum and the total war docrines, you'd know how it'll end before it even started.

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raics wrote:

Or it just might be that the romans succeeded and the nazi failed.

Once again - there's no "if" when talking about historical events ;)

There's only end result.

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torturo wrote:

It's pure nonsense to compare romans to the nazis.
Former were and expanding and prosperous civilization with its culture, religions, science, technologies and military art, with a great positive impact over the ancient and even the modern world, for a long period of time.
Latter were a short lasting regional event, with motives driven by idiotic doctrines which served only to a certain clique, thus brought nothing but destruction (the impact was overly negative).

And yet that notion is wrong. You'd be surprised how much of the modern world's technology has its roots or conception in Nazi Germany.

We just don't talk about it. And somehow that makes it correct to be factually wrong.

I do know, but technology achievements aren't the only factor when defining gains, losses and the overall impact, in historical plan.