Donald Trump and US politics
" I don't think that's entirely fair either as a generalization. It's easy to assume something incorrect about someone's argument. Comments such as the following show that he is at least considering some scenarios where what you would probably call right wing ideals/solutions would not be effective. " The pure competition or pure capitalism economic model assumes all consumers have perfect market knowledge, all products and services are commodity (exactly identical and interchangeable so that only the price is different), there are no barriers to entry for markets, etc. The model is clearly not equally applicable to all markets and even more clearly not applicable for healthcare at all even if patients are conscious. |
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" That's not the case here, though. As an analogy, what he did is like replying to someone talking about voodoo economics and saying, "so you actually believe they're going to raise zombies to control the economy?" Of course nobody believes that, just as nobody believes in the right's ridiculous strawman of a healthcare system that doesn't involve money at any point. It's not an incorrect assumption. It's pure dishonesty and disingenuousness. | |
"My intent was to verify whether or not you realize that "a right to" healthcare is actually just another way of describing a certain method of healthcare funding, and that service is still not rendered unless doctors, etc sufficiently paid (or enslaved). That said, if "the plan is to pay for it with taxes," then your plan solves nothing. Again: this is a pricing problem, not a funding problem. It doesn't matter who pays for it if we can't control the human parasites leeching off of that money stream while adding nothing. To further clarify: I'm not saying crowdfunding or private insurance or individual patient funding would do a lick better, because funding solutions don't solve pricing problems. It's not that we're arguing about the best color and you like blue and I like red; it's like we're arguing about the solution to a complex equation, but because you're myopically focused on the color debate your answer is "blue." You are breathtakingly confused, arguing a position irrelevant to the problem and to which the problem is irrelevant. "Where do you get this nonsense from? Do you really think me knowing the price of cigarettes in Afghanistan is relevant to my nicotine-related purchases in the US? Do you really think only the price difference matters in terms of free market competition? If that were true, all products would either enjoy de facto regional monopolies, or not sell at all. You're painting capitalism as some snowflake that requires precise, planned conditions, when it's actually one of capitalism's greatest strengths on how rugged, adaptable, decentralized and even messy it can be. Stop strawmanning. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Oct 30, 2017, 6:02:00 PM
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This is the healthcare battlefield wherein the problem lies...
In the beginning, healthcare was mostly unregulated and worked anyway. But as the healthcare companies began to compete against each other, they began tapping into the power of lobbying. Some companies hired mercenary Democrats to build walls of regulation to fortify their positions (but not the positions of their competitors). Other companies hired mercenary Republicans to tear down the walls of regulation protecting their competitors (but not those protecting themselves). And so it went for countless years, creating a labyrinthine web of walls, solid in some places and scattered ruins in others, until it was not only possible but likely to get oneself thoroughly lost attempting to navigate them. (There is a Democrat legend that the field began with a beautiful wall from ancient times, and it was the Republicans who struck first. No one knows, and no one should care. It's like the chicken and the egg.) Somewhere within this bipartisan maze lurk the beasts. Once members of the companies that fought, the strange magic of the maze has corrupted them. Many enter, but none return. Many in the nearby town of Tristram believe what is needed is more money, just more and more money, and eventually the beasts will be sated and people won't need to die needlessly. I disagree; I don't think all the money in the world would fix that. I think we need a map eventually, but first: torches and weapons. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Oct 30, 2017, 6:26:24 PM
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" Admittedly I only see posts from about four different people in this thread (many pages are blank due to frequent circle jerks from insane, delusional Trumplings), but everything I see seems relevant to the thread to me. "Donald Trump and US politics" is a pretty broad topic. If all you care about here is Trump, I posted a bit related to Manafort's part in the "stupid Watergate" scandal earlier. I was hoping someone else would mention Popadopalas, which is an even bigger deal, but no dice. That news should have scared a lot of evil Republicans. Today has been a good day for America. | |
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@ 鬼殺し
You're a demon killer Shogi ? Last edited by decrepit_birth on Oct 30, 2017, 7:16:49 PM
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Trump couldn't "drain the swamp", so Mueller is doing it for him :) |
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