Donald Trump and US politics

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Enjoy the prototypes. That's as far as that part of the anarchy party plan is going.


The Wall™ is going to get built one way or another. It's not a question of if, but when, and how tall, how much, and what the other nuances involved in its construction will be. =).

The cucks in the Republican Party are going to get primary challengers, and many of them are going to lose their seats in 2018, along with Democrats. 2018 is going to be a complete rout for the Democrats, and neocons both, even more than 2016 was.
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The members of the anarchy party should build it themselves out of lego bricks. 3 or 4 rows high.
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The members of the anarchy party should build it themselves out of lego bricks. 3 or 4 rows high.


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faerwin wrote:
I don't see how you can argue that conservatism is the way to go for individual freedom. A progressive society is what we need. Now, you might have a different idea of progression than me so I'll explain my view.

It depends upon where you fall on the political spectrum. Progressivism as a political ideology wants more regulation, and suggests that the individual is inherently dependent upon the state to ensure one’s outcome.

From where I am sitting, more regulation means less liberty, and society will progress naturally regardless of intervention or reform.
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MrSmiley21 wrote:
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The members of the anarchy party should build it themselves out of lego bricks. 3 or 4 rows high.




Exactly!
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CanHasPants wrote:
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faerwin wrote:
I don't see how you can argue that conservatism is the way to go for individual freedom. A progressive society is what we need. Now, you might have a different idea of progression than me so I'll explain my view.

It depends upon where you fall on the political spectrum. Progressivism as a political ideology wants more regulation, and suggests that the individual is inherently dependent upon the state to ensure one’s outcome.

From where I am sitting, more regulation means less liberty, and society will progress naturally regardless of intervention or reform.



Regulations do not inherently mean less liberty. It does mean more control though. Control can be a good thing in some cases and a bad thing in other cases.

For example, regulations that prevent business owners from exploiting their employees by forcing them to work in unsafe environment or for exploitative wages. Regulations ensure (in theory) that such behavior is unacceptable and are considered a criminal offense.

Another example is the use of detailed nutriments in food products. If such label wasn't required by law, the clients would be unaware of what's in their food and as a consequence, there would be extremely unhealthy ingredients (often chemicals) still being used to either enhance taste or cut down production cost, just like it was a few decades ago.


Such regulations are a good thing to have.
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CanHasPants wrote:
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faerwin wrote:
I don't see how you can argue that conservatism is the way to go for individual freedom. A progressive society is what we need. Now, you might have a different idea of progression than me so I'll explain my view.
It depends upon where you fall on the political spectrum. Progressivism as a political ideology wants more regulation, and suggests that the individual is inherently dependent upon the state to ensure one’s outcome.

From where I am sitting, more regulation means less liberty, and society will progress naturally regardless of intervention or reform.
The way I see it, a free market is the appropriate carrot and regulation is the appropriate stick. I don't think liberty is an inherent good, and is dependent upon context (ex: liberty to steal), nor is natural progress through free market competition a social good regardless of context (ex: a free market in contract assassination creating more efficient service relative to the customer).

Free market competition is the appropriate stance for all things good, and the de facto monopolization of Marxism is literally something to wish upon one's enemies. This doesn't mean the latter is without its uses; we don't live in a world without enemies.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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diablofdb wrote:
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The current liberal movement isn't what's liberalism was about. It shouldn't even be called Liberal anymore. I used to be a liberal (and I still consider myself a liberal) but when I see what they are doing today I stopped voting for them and started voting for conservatives. And I know I'm not alone in that situation. Conservative are supposed to be the opposite of liberalism and I ended up voting for them, that's how far the current so called liberals are from the real liberalism.

Liberalism is about changing things, becoming a better nation, discovery, science. It's not about authoritanism and policing every words people say because you don't agree with them. On contrary the real liberalism is about conversation and long confrontation of ideas, not censoring everyone you disagree with.

As long as the current movement will remain rotten like that I will vote for conservative party.


So People realise there is socialists on the left, not just liberals. The left in America is coalition, you also sharing it with libertarians, Neocons, Centrists, Moderates, progressives, economic left, cultural left, Democratic Socialists, Social liberalists and SJWs, etc.

The Melting Pot offers sizzling good fun and people don't like it?
i don't understand how ideologies that support indivualism/smaller government support individual freedoms

it is clear that ideologies that support communism/larger government, and not individualism, support individual freedoms more

you would know this if you got "educated™" at college, all my professors taught me this and they are "centrists™"
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deathflower wrote:
So People realise there is socialists on the left, not just liberals. The left in America is coalition, you also sharing it with libertarians, Neocons, Centrists, Moderates, progressives, economic left, cultural left, Democratic Socialists, Social liberalists and SJWs, etc.
Libertarians and centrists are cool, but the right has them too. Moderates are the shitty version of centrists; if centrists are like the D&D characters that go true neutral because they've explored the various alignments and rejected them, moderates are like the characters that are true neutral only because their cowardice and willful ignorance makes them non-committal. Neocon is a euphemism for MIC shill. Economic left is a euphemism for Communist. SJW is a euphemism for racist sexist bigot, and you list them as allies anyway. The liberals you have left find themselves surrounded by leftists opposed to liberalism.

Your coalition sucks bad enough that all the good people left it a year ago, either as H.A. Goodman-esque separatists or more likely as right-allied centrists. And those within your alliance have no qualms calling either of these groups hate-enablers or similar libel.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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