[2.6] LL Ele Wander Raider ~ Insane clear speed/Shaper/Guardians - 225k Barrage tooltip

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ADEPT_ wrote:

Is this build going to get a nerf soon? I want to try it because my current flicker build is squishy but I'd like to give this one a go.

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Nephalim wrote:

Jeeze, how much did each of those 4 dps mod jewels cost? Maybe people disregard coe builds after the great blood rage nerf but i cant imagine they were cheap.

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Nephalim wrote:

Jeeze, how much did each of those 4 dps mod jewels cost? Maybe people disregard coe builds after the great blood rage nerf but i cant imagine they were cheap.

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InAshesTheyShallReap wrote:

wanders are the strongest ranged atm, im playing signal shot with brood twine and +1 signal fire

some days ago i tried wander with foe bite+shield: with kinetic blast 3L cuz 1 link with iiq gem i was killing as quick as tornado shot +2ts enchant 5L with brood twine

barrage had about 30% less dps average than with bow but just because you need the power charges up to deal high dps, without charges wander is really bad

but to notice that signal fire +1 is stronger than any existing mirrored quiver, it's the most broken unique of the gam. without signal fire, wander would beat any bow build any time; dual wield mirrored phys wands would be as strong or slightly better than mirrored bow+signal fire, im tempted to try it :D

i had 6l barrage 220k dps in map with enfeeble -60% curse effect sextant mod while cleaning without any dps flask, but i gave up due to the charges thing

i will try dual wield phys wands with twin terrors

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philophil wrote:

U don't need some mirrored dual shit to beat broodtwine/signalfire.

If u look at my gear/build n the dmg distribution im reaching currently 387K on barrage n im dealing far more lightning dmg in therm of % then signal fire build so all the lightning pen from vinktar is much more effective, so even at equal tooltip im dealing more dmg vs boss. Not to mention also COST vs RESULT, i think this build win by far on that point too.

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samthedigital wrote:

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philophil wrote:

U don't need some mirrored dual shit to beat broodtwine/signalfire.

If u look at my gear/build n the dmg distribution im reaching currently 387K on barrage n im dealing far more lightning dmg in therm of % then signal fire build so all the lightning pen from vinktar is much more effective, so even at equal tooltip im dealing more dmg vs boss. Not to mention also COST vs RESULT, i think this build win by far on that point too.

A Brood Twine build gets 10K+ es and could probably inflate its damage by sacrificing some of that ES for damage. The quiver also gives the build an additional arrow compared to wanding for a small percentage more damage which is not reflected on the tooltip.

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Nephalim wrote:

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samthedigital wrote:

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philophil wrote:

U don't need some mirrored dual shit to beat broodtwine/signalfire.

If u look at my gear/build n the dmg distribution im reaching currently 387K on barrage n im dealing far more lightning dmg in therm of % then signal fire build so all the lightning pen from vinktar is much more effective, so even at equal tooltip im dealing more dmg vs boss. Not to mention also COST vs RESULT, i think this build win by far on that point too.

A Brood Twine build gets 10K+ es and could probably inflate its damage by sacrificing some of that ES for damage. The quiver also gives the build an additional arrow compared to wanding for a small percentage more damage which is not reflected on the tooltip.

With 100% BIS perfect gear I'm going to have to bank on the 600 pds bow beating out any wand build for barrage single target but maybe not by a wide margin. The point is that you nearly 1 shot guardians far before that 100% BIS threshold so is shaving off .5 seconds really that significant or noticeable?

There little things like defense, block that go into the mix as well.

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KB is still the best clear skill in the game hands down though.

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Vaal Spark and Vaal Fireball are much better at map clearing if that's your thing. Cospri with Shield Charge is also definitely faster. I can't comment on shield charge as a skill on it's own, but I'd imagine it would be pretty fast too with insane gear. I'm just not sure the damage is enough to one shot things as I've never seen the build in action.

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I'm confused as to whether this is directed towards me or not.