[2.6] Cospri's Forge Lacerate Slayer - Fast clearspeed - Farming Shaper, Guardians, Uber Atziri -

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Jakle1111 wrote:
Besides Sin's Rebirth, any obvious places to improve? Thinking about replacing Carnage Heart because 5200 life doesn't feel like enough. Divining the Starforge is another idea but could be pretty expensive.

Not too sure how to prioritize the following:
1) Sin's Rebirth (seems like top)
2) Quality/L20 gems (2nd/3rd priority?)
3) Rare boots w/ resists to overcap and more life (super pricey lol)
4) Replacing Carnage Heart with life (would also need to find ~40 int)
5) Spiked gloves (maybe 2nd priority)
6) A belt with strength (seems like last priority but may be cheaper)

Can probably free up ~7-8ex from my CWC Wither/Chaos Storm guy if I start selling stuff off.

Enfeeble Phoenix rekt me. My tooltip DPS is about 30% below yours so I'm definitely missing some big stuff. Feel free to peek at my skill tree too. Thanks!

Gear:
Spoiler


Strength is not gonna give you that much HP. Take Juggernaut and the jewel socket you're missing to add a jewel with %maximum life, drop the extra strength nodes you've taken. You could try to get more int on gear so that you can replace brute force solution with a rare jewel, that should give you some more HP as well.

That gearing priority is fine. I don't really see any obvious issues.
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Planisphaerium wrote:

but i feel my damage is baaaaaaad against mino. holy hell. i dunno whats wrong. lack of aura levels? lack of enchant?

i threw like 3 divines into my forge, ripped all 3 and got super pissed off. took a break. found one and rolled an absolute beauty. feltgoodman


Your current Starforge is probably the second best in LSC right now. There's one up for sale with perfect IPD and IAS and +99 life, yours is the same but 1% off perfect IAS. A damn fine roll you got.

Your damage being bad I don't understand. Your gear is good, you can still get some marginal DPS increases from gem quality and levels but not enough to explain your current damage being bad. If you are using your totem and flasks correctly you should have more than enough damage for minotaur. Did you have bad map mods or something?

Because I had never tested cleave myself, I ran a Minotaur just now on my character using Cleave-multistrike-MPD-conc-faster attacks-VM with one of the threshold jewels equipped, no boss mods on the map. Felt pretty easy, no deaths. Maybe it was a tad slower than with lacerate but I think either I'm imagining it or it's just because I'm not used to using cleave.

You need to make sure your totem is always up and that you are taking advantage of DPS windows when he is just meleeing you to pop flasks. You can also just tank the slam if you pop Sin's Rebirth and Lion's Roar before it. Just jump out of it when the flasks expire.
Last edited by Euploid#7589 on Apr 2, 2017, 11:44:56 AM
Thanks Euploid for your quick respond!
What do you think, will it work with mine changes?
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Euploid wrote:
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Planisphaerium wrote:
ok so, if i were to go the cleave route, I can get rid of fortify. What gem do i put in place of lacerate?

void manip? Poison?

Im just not sure how the double dipping works and I dont know what is best in slot.

You can take a peek at my gear.

I am on the verge of getting some rare boots and the retch atm. So my res will be capped with both. I also wanna get a starkonja with the enchant. I will farm that tonight.

Thanks!

I had a rough time with guardians. The damage wasnt there.



If you go cleave, your 6th link should be void manipulation. Do not use the poison support gem! It is completely useless since you already have free poison with Cospri's Will. VM will multiply both the attack damage you gain from flasks and the damage from the poisons you apply.

Also, Melee damage on full life does not work at all with blood rage! Don't listen to anyone commenting in this thread saying that it does, because it doesn't and it never has. The tooltip is bugged! Replace melee damage on full with bloodlust in your AW links, you have haemophilia so bosses should consistently be bleeding.

Remember to use conc effect for bosses, it is a massive damage boost.



decided to change my Disfavour to Starforge and slightly change my passive tree when shaper drop me this

I feel Lacerate damage are not to good against bosses for single target, feel realy slow to me and clunky, and decide to test cleave, surprisingly it is very good with the new jewel(free forti and area) but for clearing speed Lacerate are better, and safer especially against vol blood

Single target with cleave are beast for me, the damage and aspd feel so good, multistrike animation finished so fast, i can leap slam out from sh**** situation, can stutter step(move and hit)so good against boss especially for Shaper(laser beam) and Hydra(all of her attack are linear and front of her) , no awkward targeting(no need reposition for atziri split phase, not fearing to hit the mirror one)

i do Shaper below 8 mins, do deathless uber atziri all with cleave(trio are die fcking fast, done atziri split phase even before the mini atziri finished casting flameblast)

the setup i use for cleave with 6L are Cleave-FA-MPD-CA(change to IA for mapping)-MS-VM
and for other 6L i use AW-LD-MPD-FA-CA-Flicker Strike(Flicker strike to close the gap, and smoother gameplay) change FS to VM for bosses but i recommend to use FS in one of your setup against Shaper
Last edited by selinemagwrata#7580 on Apr 2, 2017, 4:11:11 PM
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Geralt8989 wrote:
What do you think, will it work with mine changes?


Yes, but you still need +1 curse from somewhere.
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selinemagwrata wrote:
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Euploid wrote:
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Planisphaerium wrote:
ok so, if i were to go the cleave route, I can get rid of fortify. What gem do i put in place of lacerate?

void manip? Poison?

Im just not sure how the double dipping works and I dont know what is best in slot.

You can take a peek at my gear.

I am on the verge of getting some rare boots and the retch atm. So my res will be capped with both. I also wanna get a starkonja with the enchant. I will farm that tonight.

Thanks!

I had a rough time with guardians. The damage wasnt there.



If you go cleave, your 6th link should be void manipulation. Do not use the poison support gem! It is completely useless since you already have free poison with Cospri's Will. VM will multiply both the attack damage you gain from flasks and the damage from the poisons you apply.

Also, Melee damage on full life does not work at all with blood rage! Don't listen to anyone commenting in this thread saying that it does, because it doesn't and it never has. The tooltip is bugged! Replace melee damage on full with bloodlust in your AW links, you have haemophilia so bosses should consistently be bleeding.

Remember to use conc effect for bosses, it is a massive damage boost.



decided to change my Disfavour to Starforge and slightly change my passive tree when shaper drop me this

I feel Lacerate damage are not to good against bosses for single target, feel realy slow to me and clunky, and decide to test cleave, surprisingly it is very good with the new jewel(free forti and area) but for clearing speed Lacerate are better, and safer especially against vol blood

Single target with cleave are beast for me, the damage and aspd feel so good, multistrike animation finished so fast, i can leap slam out from sh**** situation, can stutter step(move and hit)so good against boss especially for Shaper(laser beam) and Hydra(all of her attack are linear and front of her) , no awkward targeting(no need reposition for atziri split phase, not fearing to hit the mirror one)

i do Shaper below 8 mins, do deathless uber atziri all with cleave(trio are die fcking fast, done atziri split phase even before the mini atziri finished casting flameblast)

the setup i use for cleave with 6L are Cleave-FA-MPD-CA(change to IA for mapping)-MS-VM
and for other 6L i use AW-LD-MPD-FA-CA-Flicker Strike(Flicker strike to close the gap, and smoother gameplay) change FS to VM for bosses but i recommend to use FS in one of your setup against Shaper


Threshold jewel + haemophilia = very fast clearspeed with cleave.
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Euploid wrote:


Strength is not gonna give you that much HP. Take Juggernaut and the jewel socket you're missing to add a jewel with %maximum life, drop the extra strength nodes you've taken. You could try to get more int on gear so that you can replace brute force solution with a rare jewel, that should give you some more HP as well.

That gearing priority is fine. I don't really see any obvious issues.


I had totally missed the hanging strength node. That got me to another jewel slot at least. Not seeing any other random strength nodes.

I'll have a look at amulets to see if I can pick up intelligence there without spending a fortune to drop brute force. Sad to see Carnage Heart go!

Besides that, just need a couple levels for Juggernaut unless I temporarily drop points elsewhere first and currency to get the flask.
I'm so happy right now! I've been leveling a slayer for this build but I play with cyclone. Devoto's devotion + 30 MS on boots + adrenaline quicksilver flask makes this so fast.

I cleared uber lab at 75 in 1 try, Now I'm level 80 and I have 55k cyclone dps with conc/35k with inc aoe in a 5-link (Cyclone, FA, inc phys dmg, fortify, inc aoe/conc) without flasks/charges up. And I don't even have 20/20 gems yet. Add the bleed + poison and you have some sick DPS.

And as a cherry on top, it took 4 divine's to roll this super sexy badass! Now I'm trying to 6-link it.



It's looking like this will be my first 100! Thank you so much for the build!
Last edited by JuicedG#4675 on Apr 3, 2017, 10:44:54 AM
Would you say a headhunter would suffice with this build instead of your belt? Kind of want to enjoy the privileges xD
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