[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

Question: I have 5299HP and i was thinking about refunding some life nodes to get Primeval Force, this would boost my dmg around 500+, but i would drop to 4917HP, is it worth it?

To top the question above me, is it worth it to get primeval force over hatchet master and wrecking ball?

Just a gear upgrade. Still need a belt with armor, gloves with armor and boots with armor. Buying the red dream for survivability (not using end cry). Running at about 1mil cyclone DPS now. I did test Ignite chance jewel vs added fire, and ignite is better DPS. So I'm very satisfied with my BBB - RR - G bronns. Sold my RRR - BB - G one.



Also got the anger jewel. Not perfect though, just the added dmg. Sad about my flammability, but I don't think going essence worm + linking enhance 4 is worth it. It's something I need to investigate.

Thanks for the fun, it's a nice build.

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dperls wrote:

Hey all, looking for some confirmation on what's next for me. I steamroll t15/t16 maps but find myself dying to t15 bosses sometimes. Tried my first guaridan last night, was corrupted with some extra damage and some other shitty mods and got absolutely stommped.

I'd also like some advice on my tree. I'm trying to figure out a way to get Catalyse allcoated. It would provide me about 7% boost cyclone, and 6% boost to molten burst.

I know I should quality my gems, just taking them a few at a time with GCPs because I hate re-leveling them.

Not shown is a 24% phys damage watcher's.

The way I see it in order of importance:

Refine abyss jewels
Better boots with a higher armor roll
Taste of Hate
Opal Rings
Dying Sun
Lab Enchant

Any other advice? That the right order?

The main advice that everyone else seemed to skip over is I would suggest you 20% quality all your gems. All the damage ones thats about 10% per. If you dont know how sell the gem with a GCP to the vendor and you will get a Lvl1 20% quality gem.

Have seen many running Enlighten instead of Enhance..
You think Enhance is more worse ? :)

2nd Shaper run, too chill to count time, but it's suprisingly fast considering I'm still slacking on 5link with tons of currency lying around but hey. At first I was doing some generic Slayer lab runner, once I picked Ngamahu and I was like, well this might be fun. Started as molten strike with ancestral call for maximizing them balls, was swapping for melee on full life for single target. Then I've decided to play cyclone first time since... like forever, so instead of gearing my Ashrend/Lion's Eye Raider I put 14 ex of currency on this toon and casually started killing Shaper. So yea, that's my story. (All in all this toon actually earned now way more than that by itself.)

Gear:


I was even too lazy to really do my flasks:


My tree is mostly consistent with Primeval Force tree from guide - I guess, next if I ever bother to get more levels I'll either fill up HP nodes or go for Wrecking ball.

Hey, doing a variant of your build for the 3.1 Abyss league. I managed to add Kaom's Heart with all these Elder gloves rolling around!

I just made two videos about it - a deathless shaper kill and a guide with the changes I made. Thought you might like to check them out. Thanks for the guide :)

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dperls wrote:

thanks for advice and the tree. doesn't seem like it's worth the regrets/effort right now.

RE: Enfeable, I haven't died while mapping in a while, this is more specifically for tankiness during bosses. I feel like running enfeable, which would then mean no flammability, which would then mean no anger, would be gimping to much given I'm using impressence+Watcher's combo.

I wonder if it was just the mods on minatour although I would have hoped we could have tanked and leeched through most of them.

For this build, I find Minotaur to be the toughest guardian because he can hit really hard depending on the map mods.

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adlrus wrote:

Not the best stats)

Link other things, I'm interested in your opinion.

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Thank you for linking that item. That is a beauty. :)

I would recommend you to consider picking up a 3R2B1G Bronn as that will greatly improve your damage.

You can also drop Essence Worm for a rare ring and just run Anger + Herald of Ash.

Gloves wise, Tombfist is great for the build, especially when you socket a murderous jewel in it. You get free Intimidate that will further boost your damage. A pair with Curse with Elemental Weakness on hit will be perfect for you:


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jujib3z wrote:

My problem with getting Watchers Eye is that I can't really run Anger effectively. I'm already running Flammability + Herald of Ash, and my rings are too good to pass up to be able to get Essence Worm for Anger.

Thoughts?

I need the res from the rings, I'm already sort of hurting-

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What should I do :o

If you have Impresence amulet (Flammability), you will be able to run Flammability + Anger + Herald of Ash.


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W1shm4ster wrote:

Question: I have 5299HP and i was thinking about refunding some life nodes to get Primeval Force, this would boost my dmg around 500+, but i would drop to 4917HP, is it worth it?

Your life pool is low at the moment as you are missing too much life on your gears.

You will want to have 6000 life with Primeval Force to map comfortably.

I would recommend you to upgrade your gears:
- abyssal jewels with flat life roll for Darkness Enthroned belt.
- high life roll on your boots
- high life roll on your gloves
- replace Foe Knot ring with 1 that has high life roll and good resist

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jhayeehl wrote:

To top the question above me, is it worth it to get primeval force over hatchet master and wrecking ball?

Stick with Hatchet Master and Wrecking Ball. It is not worth it to re-spec them for Primeval Force.

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Djangooo wrote:

Just a gear upgrade. Still need a belt with armor, gloves with armor and boots with armor. Buying the red dream for survivability (not using end cry). Running at about 1mil cyclone DPS now. I did test Ignite chance jewel vs added fire, and ignite is better DPS. So I'm very satisfied with my BBB - RR - G bronns. Sold my RRR - BB - G one.

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Also got the anger jewel. Not perfect though, just the added dmg. Sad about my flammability, but I don't think going essence worm + linking enhance 4 is worth it. It's something I need to investigate.

Thanks for the fun, it's a nice build.

Do you mean Enlighten 4 instead of Enhance 4?

Depending on your gears, Added Fire will provide more damage than Chance to Ignite.

e.g. Using my level 99 Slayer (mapping setup instead of Shaper):

Cyclone + Melee Physical + Elemental Focus + Elemental Damage With Attack + Concentrated +

1) Added Fire DPS = 466829

2) Chance to Ignite DPS = 424047

Added Fire scales up when your base physical damage is very high (before fire conversion). Chance to Ignite is applied after the fire conversion.

Once you get more flat physical damage on your gears, you will find that Added Fire is better.

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TehGunslinger wrote:

2nd Shaper run, too chill to count time, but it's suprisingly fast considering I'm still slacking on 5link with tons of currency lying around but hey. At first I was doing some generic Slayer lab runner, once I picked Ngamahu and I was like, well this might be fun. Started as molten strike with ancestral call for maximizing them balls, was swapping for melee on full life for single target. Then I've decided to play cyclone first time since... like forever, so instead of gearing my Ashrend/Lion's Eye Raider I put 14 ex of currency on this toon and casually started killing Shaper. So yea, that's my story. (All in all this toon actually earned now way more than that by itself.)

Gear:

Spoiler

I was even too lazy to really do my flasks:

My tree is mostly consistent with Primeval Force tree from guide - I guess, next if I ever bother to get more levels I'll either fill up HP nodes or go for Wrecking ball.

Thank you for sharing your experience with the build.

It has been a while since I see a player running Carcass Jack to beat Shaper. :)

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GodofRabbits wrote:

Hey, doing a variant of your build for the 3.1 Abyss league. I managed to add Kaom's Heart with all these Elder gloves rolling around!

I just made two videos about it - a deathless shaper kill and a guide with the changes I made. Thought you might like to check them out. Thanks for the guide :)

Thanks for sharing the video on using Kaom's Heart. :)

Yes, Kaom's Heart can certainly beat Shaper but the damage output is at least 50% lower than the 6L Cyclone setup.

For instance, you can take a look at this video uploaded by @Overmedia using a 6L Belly.

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Yes, Kaom's Heart can certainly beat Shaper but the damage output is at least 50% lower than the 6L Cyclone setup.

For instance, you can take a look at this video uploaded by @Overmedia using a 6L Belly.

I'm running an effective 5L with Cyclone - Faster Attacks - Fortify - Inc AoE - Elemental Damage With Attack Skills. Certainly I could have swapped for Conc Effect and another damage support were I to want more damage. Regardless, a 6L only beats this setup by one link, so it's not as large a boost as you imply.

Hi guys.

Just wanting a bit of advice of where to go gear wise from where I am at. I haven't cleared Shaper but only really because I haven't filled my Atlas out properly and I hate buying maps.

My gear and build is on my character tab.

I'm enjoying the Cremation build but really not sure if there aren't better ways of doing it.

Any and all feedback is appreciated. My resists are touch and go at 80% all so I don't have much to move there.