[2.5] CI Meatball Blender! Cyclone AoF Pathfinder! Ngamahu's Flame

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Grocery wrote:
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Aedre32 wrote:
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Grocery wrote:
Will check and let you know. Would you go raider or PF as ES?


Thinking of going raider tbh but I can do PF as well since I have dying sun already and I can afford other expensive flasks.


Yea it is an interesting decision. I am going to mess around with Raider a bit on Standard. Lava Lash/Iron Grip is more reasonable to get when you can pick up a frenzy charge/jewel slot along the way.


Haha yeah raider is quite fun. I never tried raider before this and I got used to playing PF as well but when I made raider I was quite surprised by how smooth and fast she was! I think raider is still going to have more dps than PF due to frenzy charges but PF is pretty solid all around choice.
Last edited by Aedre32#6649 on Jan 23, 2017, 1:05:59 PM
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Grocery wrote:
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Aedre32 wrote:
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Grocery wrote:
Will check and let you know. Would you go raider or PF as ES?


Thinking of going raider tbh but I can do PF as well since I have dying sun already and I can afford other expensive flasks.


Yea it is an interesting decision. I am going to mess around with Raider a bit on Standard. Lava Lash/Iron Grip is more reasonable to get when you can pick up a frenzy charge/jewel slot along the way.


I tried to build a tree for raider and I found I have to give up on all flask nodes and shadow area to get frenzy charges, lava lash and iron grip.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAEHQHwIEBw18EVAUdRXX0K0ZivzFGyVWSCL0I9NM_yo4LL8NjTW52CR6hD1fRnFJUUmxS65Ms04qUlM2xVZjW69ca19qYEOE72wLbRluPW5pbycXJn_GgwmESITFhNmGrodqi3qPYI_6kyftP5cGl5WX9Jpqm7XY1aEvpMKnK6mUr-u0DJXMvoC-ir6nwzrDbXh6xLg8vgceytPQH9DQ1fjXzwFv2VuVLqkn4vfn6ukCg23qur3m7BjviO_r8NVfcPkz-TdU_vljFfAF-RGWb57KSl-wo4ruDkMxwzNaGmEhGlU26IZgIq84U3bnOlIyftrBLlPTbw==
Last edited by hupple#0272 on Jan 23, 2017, 1:19:11 PM
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hupple wrote:

I tried to build a tree for raider and I found I have to give up on all flask nodes and shadow area to get frenzy charges, lava lash and iron grip.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAEHQHwIEBw18EVAUdRXX0K0ZivzFGyVWSCL0I9NM_yo4LL8NjTW52CR6hD1fRnFJUUmxS65Ms04qUlM2xVZjW69ca19qYEOE72wLbRluPW5pbycXJn_GgwmESITFhNmGrodqi3qPYI_6kyftP5cGl5WX9Jpqm7XY1aEvpMKnK6mUr-u0DJXMvoC-ir6nwzrDbXh6xLg8vgceytPQH9DQ1fjXzwFv2VuVLqkn4vfn6ukCg23qur3m7BjviO_r8NVfcPkz-TdU_vljFfAF-RGWb57KSl-wo4ruDkMxwzNaGmEhGlU26IZgIq84U3bnOlIyftrBLlPTbw==


What do you think of this? Similar to yours. Level 98, takes forces of nature for more ele damage and pen + the jewel node near lava lash.

Possible Raider Tree
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
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Grocery wrote:

What do you think of this? Similar to yours. Level 98, takes forces of nature for more ele damage and pen + the jewel node near lava lash.

Possible Raider Tree


It is a solid tree. But I think it is for lvl 100. Since you would take Attack Speed and Frenzy charges.
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hupple wrote:
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Grocery wrote:

What do you think of this? Similar to yours. Level 98, takes forces of nature for more ele damage and pen + the jewel node near lava lash.

Possible Raider Tree


It is a solid tree. But I think it is for lvl 100. Since you would take Attack Speed and Frenzy charges.


Right you are. I was in pathfinder mode. I'd take Charge for sure, attack speed I am unsure of.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Aedre32 wrote:

Haha yeah raider is quite fun. I never tried raider before this and I got used to playing PF as well but when I made raider I was quite surprised by how smooth and fast she was! I think raider is still going to have more dps than PF due to frenzy charges but PF is pretty solid all around choice.


Raider has frenzy charges, but Pathfinder have more aoe and +1 projectiles from dying sun. So for mapping it is hard to tell who is better. For guardians, shaper, uber, perhaps raider is better.
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Grocery wrote:
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hupple wrote:
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Grocery wrote:

What do you think of this? Similar to yours. Level 98, takes forces of nature for more ele damage and pen + the jewel node near lava lash.

Possible Raider Tree


It is a solid tree. But I think it is for lvl 100. Since you would take Attack Speed and Frenzy charges.


Right you are. I was in pathfinder mode. I'd take Charge for sure, attack speed I am unsure of.


8 attack speed worth 2 points, there is no way you can beat it by 1 point at level 99.
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hupple wrote:


8 attack speed worth 2 points, there is no way you can beat it by 1 point at level 99.


If you could rework the tree to get another jewel slot with that point it would be better, possibly.

That being said, I'm at work and have not had a chance to review the tree.

Edit: It looks like IAS would be the better option as raider unless you want to give up 2 es nodes for a 4 damage roll gem.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Jan 23, 2017, 8:58:18 PM
So if I'm pretty poor, and in HC, how should I run my auras?

Should I just run discipline and grace without HoA? I'd rather not do raider/life just because I'm trying to work on CI. I already have a ngamahu and almost lvl 55 so i'd rather not an answer of "if you're poor, goto raider".

Thank you!
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CircAGG wrote:
So if I'm pretty poor, and in HC, how should I run my auras?

Should I just run discipline and grace without HoA? I'd rather not do raider/life just because I'm trying to work on CI. I already have a ngamahu and almost lvl 55 so i'd rather not an answer of "if you're poor, goto raider".

Thank you!


I mean, you could do raider CI too!

Regardless, gear wise just get a valyrium and make sure you switch your amulet to Xoph at 64. Valyrium will take care of stuns. Discipline/HoA is a pretty damn good combo. If it were me I'd probably take a few extra reservation nodes and run grace too, if possible.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC

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