[3.4] LL Classic Summoner - Shaper/Elder/Guardian Farmer

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xxWolf wrote:

if you go CI you can not run the auras, which will force you to get a lot of resists on gear while having a very bad es pool, since there are no longer nodes behind the CI node that multiply your energy shield and you will probably nor be able to afford great ES gear, since, well, you can not afford a shav´s. if you want to run this build without shav´s i recommend either going life based for some time (probably the best option in hardcore) or replacing the shav´s with a 4l Solaris Lorica until you can afford the more expensive chest. i usually go with the solaris lorica and play very carefull (stay behind minions) while doing so, since your ES will be lackluster.
there is the 3rd option of using 1-2 Coruscating Elixirs, but i would not recommend that to anyone, in hardcore it´s complete suicide and in softcore it also gets very annoying, since you will randomly die constantly, because that one mob poisoned you/you stood in desecrated ground/etc while you did not have the flask up for 1 second.


Thank you, that was an awesome explanation!
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Twelvepack wrote:
Am i missing something, im no where near resistance cap unless i get resistances on my belt and gloves. I even have alira as a bandit choice for +15% to all resistances. Not really an issue with fire and lightning but cold resistance is lacking in my setup. I have all the necessary uniques and yes my purities arent maxed yet but im talking like im missing 40% cold resistance. Is your calculations including using flasks?


my calculations are done without flasks.

pmed him, problem was he allocated necromantic aegis, making his minions steal the resists of prism guardian, problem solved. ;) (took a few minutes to pinpoint that tho :D )
Last edited by xxWolf#7174 on Aug 19, 2017, 12:59:12 PM
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Ywein wrote:


Thank you, that was an awesome explanation!


Glad i could help you out :)
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Completed 17 ChallengesTwelvepack wrote:
Am i missing something, im no where near resistance cap unless i get resistances on my belt and gloves. I even have alira as a bandit choice for +15% to all resistances. Not really an issue with fire and lightning but cold resistance is lacking in my setup. I have all the necessary uniques and yes my purities arent maxed yet but im talking like im missing 40% cold resistance. Is your calculations including using flasks?


my calculations are done without flasks.

pmed him, problem was he allocated necromantic aegis, making his minions steal the resists of prism guardian, problem solved. ;) (took a few minutes to pinpoint that tho :D )



Thanks again! Literally after you fixed my issue i sold a 6 link vis and gained some currency to make this build even stronger for me so it was a good day for me. Thanks for taking the time and figuring out the issue.
Hi, this build looks really cool and i think it will be my next build for this league but im not that experienced in the game so can you please tell me how to level up?
Looking to start this build and I was just wondering what passives do you pick for Ascend. I can't see to find it in the skill tree you linked. Also what about Panethon? Thanks!
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Sa6oV0lta wrote:
Hi, this build looks really cool and i think it will be my next build for this league but im not that experienced in the game so can you please tell me how to level up?


I will add a more detailed leveling section in the future, but for now here is the most important things:


- Do not level with spectres, that would be a very frustrating experience

- zombies are weak until you get some minion life regeneration

- use Summon Raging Spirit as leveling skill, you can use it from level 4 onwards, it will carry you until the point where you can go full spectres (around level 70). i recommend getting a 3linked Reverberation Rod, put Summon Raging Spirit - Minion Damage - Melee Splash in it (you can use the wand from level 24 i think, until then you can place SRS and whatever supports are available at the time in a life sprig or just in whatever links are free. you can switch in multistrike for melee splash against bosses. you can also go with a tabula rasa if you have one, put SRS - Minion Damage - Melee Splash - Spell Echo - Melee Physical Damage - Minion Speed in there, again replacing melee splash with Multistrike for bosses. Tabula makes leveling easier, but Reverberation Rod also makes leveling easy.

- while leveling best is to go life based, meaning while travelling to your minion nodes you should pick up any life nodes you travel by, also try to find some gear with life rolls while leveling (resists also do never hurt)

- do not be afraid to pick up some +30 strength or dexterity nodes in the skill tree if you need more of those stats to wear gear/level gems, you can respec them later, just like the life nodes

- if you already have a high level character (which i assume since you got 20 challanges so far) you can buy the gems the build requires from the vendor next to the waypoint in act 10 town and start leveling them with your summoner, once he can. for that purpose it is a good idea to put some 3 socket weapons in your 2nd weapon set (if you press X you swap weapon sets), you will not use those weapons, but the gems in them gain experience!

- for auras while leveling i recommend using purity of elements, it makes your life much easier. Hatred greatly increases your raging spirit´s and zombie´s damage, however if you run both you will want to use an elreon ring to negate your SRS´ mana cost, you can buy one with -8 to mana cost of skills for 1C on poetrade. if you do not want to use elreon + hatred you can use clarity instead.

- Bones of Ullr got a low level rquirement, you can use those from level 22, 4linking them is not a waste of fusings, since you will keep using them in the late game, making them a good place to put a 4link zombie setup in. Raise Zombie - Minion Damage - Minion Life - Melee Physical Damage is what i usually go with for leveling.

- with your first 2 ascendancy nodes pick up Commander of Darkness, it grants very good damage and those 20% all resist are really nice while leveling (and necessary when starting maps)

- once you got your merciless ascendancy points (pick up Flesh Binder and Spirit Weaver) and are about lvl 70 you can do the respec. spec out of life nodes, replace your life gear with the energy shield/low life gear (replace Shavronne´s with Solaris Lorica if you can not afford it yet) and get your aura setup running (do not forget to put in one Conquerer´s Efficiency Jewel somewhere at the tree!). if this is your first energy shield character it will feel very weird in the beginning, since you can not rely on life pots and do not have a large ES pool yet. stay behind your minions and play defensively until you got used to it (and maybe some gear upgrades).

- on the solaris lorica try to get a 4link with the colours Blue, Blue, Red, Green. Link Raise Spectre - Minion Damage - Fire Penetration - Greater Multiple Projectiles in it. For (harder) bosses switch in slower projectiles for GMP. you hit those colours on the solaris lorica on average every 29 chromes. the setup is very squishy at this point without crystal belt, shav´s and presence of chayula, but also very cheap and - if played safely - able to farm up to red maps until you can get gear upgrades. last league i farmed T13 Scriptorium maps with it for the Shavronne´s wrappings, that is not necessary any more, since shav´s got much cheaper. (energy shield is dead, you know? i´ll tell you something: shaper didn´t notice.)




you do not necessarily have to do everything i mentioned, you can level without any of the uniques, you can level with energy shield gear and just dont pick up life and you could level as a completely different build (firestorm for example), but the things i described make the leveling process much more enjoyable (for me at least) and safe. i know that a lot of people do not like to do respecs, but i really recommend just picking up those life nodes, as ES is really weak while leveling and you get a lot of respec points just by doing the quests. and even if you had to spend a few regrets later ("few" means about 5, not 50.), that would be worth it, considering you needed 4 less hours for leveling and had 20 deaths less.

Spoiler
Holy Crap i just realized i wrote a book
Last edited by xxWolf#7174 on Aug 19, 2017, 7:43:54 PM
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miorya wrote:
Looking to start this build and I was just wondering what passives do you pick for Ascend. I can't see to find it in the skill tree you linked. Also what about Panethon? Thanks!


For Ascendancy it is: Commander of Darkness - Flesh Binder - Spirit Weaver - Mistress of Sacrifice
they are also allocated in the skill trees linked in the "Skill Tree" part. ;)


About Pantheon:
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xxWolf wrote:
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Porenta wrote:
Hi there, I've been using this build now for a few months and love the play style great work! What minor and major gods do you recommend going and using the divine vessels on?


Good question, i will add a section about that to the guide in the next few days!

For major god power i chose Soul of Lunaris for one simple reason: "Avoid Projectiles that have chained". This is very powerfull in the hands of a summoner, since chain kinda counters our meatshield, for example porcupines in a chain map could be rly sketchy, with this node not any more. the other things are okay, movement speed and physcial mitigation are nice, the other defensive boni are too random for my liking, but we get it for free i guess.

for minor god power i chose Sould of Abberath. the 5% reduced fire damage taken does not hurt and the immunity to burning ground adds some quality of life, since burning ground will no longer interrupt or prevent our ES recharge. reduced ignite duration is also not bad, since we do not use a burn removal flask.


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xxWolf wrote:
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miorya wrote:
Looking to start this build and I was just wondering what passives do you pick for Ascend. I can't see to find it in the skill tree you linked. Also what about Panethon? Thanks!


For Ascendancy it is: Commander of Darkness - Flesh Binder - Spirit Weaver - Mistress of Sacrifice they are also allocated in the skill trees linked in the "Skill Tree" part. ;)



Sorry to correct you on something so dumb, but i guess you meant "Soul Weaver" instead of "Spirit Weaver" (allmost the same but it can be confusing specially to someone new and taking into acount that there is another node called "Spirit Eater")

Also i was maping tonite and i found that there is allways some "merveil blessed" on the "coves" map, you dont need any special tag on the map but there are not a lot of em, maybe you can find 6-8 in the whole map (usually you find one on every group of those smaller tentacle mobs...like a general of sorts lol)

And a last comment, you can get base flame sentinels (68) with 100% consistency on "the templar laboratory" map on the epilogue-oriath map...desecrate there and every group will have at least one flame sent (ofc after that you need a map level one etc)
Last edited by Maximilian_Edmonton#6917 on Aug 19, 2017, 9:14:49 PM
I just killed Shaper with this build, i strongly recommend it =)

Also adding that the dude that made this guide whispered me in game and helped me out with stuff i was thinking about regarding my build/the game (since i'm quite new). Super nice guy!

Shaper killed on first attempt, last portal usage.
Very easy fight, only thing that costed me multiple portals was his slam ability and the balls that reached Zana's globe during the protection.

Big thanks Wolf!


Edit:

I just did Shaper again, and it was a clean kill with no death.
Last edited by milkingcows#6474 on Aug 19, 2017, 9:53:27 PM

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