[2.6] CI HoWA ST - Uber / Shaper / Guardians Down - Budget Friendly?

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TiagoRox wrote:
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danciderus wrote:
Having a blast with this build. Not sure what to upgrade next to get the best bang for buck.

Any thoughts?

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Just to know... How much is your DPS?

I think something is wrong with my build, my dps are really sux (i know that my gears are sux, but the DPS is really different from the rest of players that are following the build)

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What could i do to improve my build? (only have 55 chaos after buying the 6L chest)

The logic of this build is to add lightning damage with intel and flat rolls and then scale it with weapon elemental damage.
Having 100% on belt and rings as well as t1 t2 intel everywhere bumps the dps a lot.
This build now is extremely expensive to min max.
Can anyone explain me differences between Mathil passive tree and passive tree from this build?

First of all nice buid, very well written

I have some questions though:
1) why don't you use faster attacks instead of added lighting?
2) why not using a third fertile mind?
3) in endgame what would you priorize in order to get more dmg? i have 6l, almost 20/20 gems, got lucky on a 21/20 st, wed and int on jewellery, etc but i'm still 10k tooltip gmp far from your screens
the only thing i would be able to optimize without spending tens of exalts are jewels
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Hejtero wrote:
Can anyone explain me differences between Mathil passive tree and passive tree from this build?



They are mostly the same. Mathil's tree paths for a third Fertile Mind jewel (to the left of Vaal Pact), some mana sustain (Primal Spirit + the two Mana nodes), some non-frenzy related attack speed, a little more accuracy, better Energy Shield nodes, a decent amount of extra INT... Honestly it's a lot more optimized than the OP's tree. With that said the original passive tree is fine and will carry you through all the content in the game. Mathil's is more of a min max respec imo. Plus those flask nodes are reeeeally good with Vinktars.

I've gained about 4k tooltip dps (40k with golem + wrath + gmp AND i hit 100k with max frenzy and overload), 4% accuracy gain, a nice increase to attack speed, no more mana sustain issues when spamming Whirling Blades, about 200 more int, and I went from 7.8k ES to 8.7k ES (also with a 20% max ES crafted MOD).

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LiberLogic969 wrote:
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Hejtero wrote:
Can anyone explain me differences between Mathil passive tree and passive tree from this build?



They are mostly the same. Mathil's tree paths for a third Fertile Mind jewel (to the left of Vaal Pact), some mana sustain (Primal Spirit + the two Mana nodes), some non-frenzy related attack speed, a little more accuracy, better Energy Shield nodes, a decent amount of extra INT... Honestly it's a lot more optimized than the OP's tree. With that said the original passive tree is fine and will carry you through all the content in the game. Mathil's is more of a min max respec imo. Plus those flask nodes are reeeeally good with Vinktars.

I've gained about 4k tooltip dps (40k with golem + wrath + gmp AND i hit 100k with max frenzy and overload), 4% accuracy gain, a nice increase to attack speed, no more mana sustain issues when spamming Whirling Blades, about 200 more int, and I went from 7.8k ES to 8.7k ES (also with a 20% max ES crafted MOD).

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The only thing I dislike about mathil's tree is the lack of jewel slots.
I had to chug mana pots like a motherfucker and based mathil fixed that. Dunno wtf OP was thinking
I agree... Mathil's tree changes resolved 95% of my mana issues... I'm about halfway between Void and Mathi's trees right now at 87...

I like a lot of the nodes I picked up, don't feel like I lost much, and if some people dont want to lose a jewel socket or 2, just keep them and skip something like the accuracy cluster on the far right past the Fertile Mind socket

One thing I'm unsure on, is when it would be safe to swap out the 2 leech nodes that Mathil drops in the Duelist Leech cluster... that would drop me from 2% leech to 0.8%... seems like a matter of DPS output for sustaining heals when needed

I'm at 33k hideout dps now with GMP, Golem, Ancestral Protector, and Wrath... 66k with Frenzy charges and Elemental Overload... somewhere around 80k+ with flasks... 7200 ES and growing as I now pick up the ES cluster in Mathil's tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Piros/characters?characterName=SlateHOWA

Main upgrade I want to make is a 6L instead of a 5L... I assume my tooltip will start approaching the numbers of other people once I add the last link in... mostly wearing lvl 19/0 gems still, too...
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Piros wrote:
I agree... Mathil's tree changes resolved 95% of my mana issues... I'm about halfway between Void and Mathi's trees right now at 87...

I like a lot of the nodes I picked up, don't feel like I lost much, and if some people dont want to lose a jewel socket or 2, just keep them and skip something like the accuracy cluster on the far right past the Fertile Mind socket

One thing I'm unsure on, is when it would be safe to swap out the 2 leech nodes that Mathil drops in the Duelist Leech cluster... that would drop me from 2% leech to 0.8%... seems like a matter of DPS output for sustaining heals when needed

I'm at 33k hideout dps now with GMP, Golem, Ancestral Protector, and Wrath... 66k with Frenzy charges and Elemental Overload... somewhere around 80k+ with flasks... 7200 ES and growing as I now pick up the ES cluster in Mathil's tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Piros/characters?characterName=SlateHOWA

Main upgrade I want to make is a 6L instead of a 5L... I assume my tooltip will start approaching the numbers of other people once I add the last link in... mostly wearing lvl 19/0 gems still, too...

Hey Piros!

A 6-link will increase your DPS by about 20% or so.

And, with the higher DPS, you'll find that you don't need the extra mana nodes. The single 0.4% Life and Mana Leech node is all that you will need with higher DPS.
I'm level 68 and I just got to be able to use HoWA. It's quite powerful. What should I focus on gearing next? Pretty much all my gear is crap. Should I get Astramentis as my first big purchase?
I've been really enjoying this build since I got over the issues of transitioning "cheaply" to CI with two HOWA.

However, I'm not sure if I should continue due to the cost of upgrades with the current meta (and popularity of this and similar builds I guess, I'm well aware and late to the party and contributing to this cost increase).

My current tree, as I've modified things a little. And took a Valyrium ring to save going for stun immunity (I'll probably switch this out later, but it seemed a good idea when I first went CI to save points and make the most of what little ES I had).


My items:
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I've been reluctant to spend anything so far, as if I can't get to the point I can do Uber lab comfortably, I might as well invest in other characters.



I've always been a hoarder when it comes to items/currency, just looking for some advice on best bang for buck and starting to wonder if I wouldn't just be better off trying to craft, consider half decent items with only 2-3 useful stats seem to start at 40c each...

(this is the first league I've played in since beta/early launch and was never that into the game back then).

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