[2.6] CI HoWA ST - Uber / Shaper / Guardians Down - Budget Friendly?

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Snorri_Skjoelsen wrote:
Hi there, guys!

Here's my gear and I need ya suggestions on how to improve the DPS and mebbe the QoL:



Second Atziri's or Vinktar flask instead of the wise oak?
Right now I have around 45-50 ex. Not enuf to get a 950+ ES chest but the amount is okay to buy some minor stuff like opal rings.
It's around 46k DPS with GMP & l.golem on in the ho.
The wise oak is amazingly useful as long as you have more lightning resist than anything else. I'd keep it for sure.

The quicksilver needs to go, though. I use a Silver instead, with bleed on it, as that's the only thing we really still fear after running uber lab. Folks will use Sulphur or Granite instead of the silver, depending on your playstyle.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
Nice guide, but I'm forever having to double-check what levels/quality are optimal, so I've "prettied up" your gem list and added level/quality indicators for you to fill out (I guessed some initial values)! :)

Key and examples:
<Gem>(<Level>[<+|>][<quality>])
(3) = level 3 with 0% quality
(21+20) = level 21 with 20% quality
(20+22) = level 20 with 22% quality
(21|22) = (level 21 with 20% quality) OR (level 20 with 22% quality)


Spoiler

(3L) Whirling Blades(20+20) - Faster Attacks(21|22) - Fortify(2+20)

(3L) Cast When Damage Taken(1) - Immortal Call(3) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Vaal Haste(20) - Vaal Discipline(20) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Discipline(21) - Wrath(21) - Enlighten(3)
Enlighten is up to you. Level 2+ will give you less mana reservation, meaning a larger mana pool, which you do want for quality of life.
Swap Wrath for Purity of Elements(21) when doing Elemental Weakness maps. I can 100% assure you that you will not be capped on resists in those maps with this build, so Purity is a must.

(4-6L) Spectral Throw(21+20) - Greater Multiple Projectiles(21+20) - Weapon Elemental Damage(21+20) - Elemental Focus(21+20) - Lightning Penetration(21+20) - Added Lightning Damage(21+20)
This is in order of importance. Drop Added Lightning Damage in a 5L, drop Lightning Penetration in a 4L.

Socket these gems into your 3L setups. They do not require links, so you can drop them in and they will work fine. Having all 3 of these gems is a must.

Spoiler

Lightning Golem(21) --> Attack Speed buff, temporary lightning dmg aura it gives is nice too.

Flame Dash(20) --> Quality of life. Ledges / fences / stairs are annoying. Dash past them.

Ancestral Protector(21) --> This is here purely for the attack speed buff. You can socket this with faster attacks if you decide that you want it to help with single target DPS.



Edit: Fixed Fortify Q.
Last edited by Nightyb#1521 on May 9, 2017, 12:27:00 AM
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Nightyb wrote:
Nice guide, but I'm forever having to double-check what levels/quality are optimal, so I've "prettied up" your gem list and added level/quality indicators for you to fill out (I guessed some initial values)! :)

Key and examples:
<Gem>(<Level>[<+|>][<quality>])
(3) = level 3 with 0% quality
(21+20) = level 21 with 20% quality
(20+22) = level 20 with 22% quality
(21|22) = (level 21 with 20% quality) OR (level 20 with 22% quality)


Spoiler

(3L) Whirling Blades(20+20) - Faster Attacks(21|22) - Fortify(2)

(3L) Cast When Damage Taken(1) - Immortal Call(3) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Vaal Haste(20) - Vaal Discipline(20) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Discipline(21) - Wrath(21) - Enlighten(3)
Enlighten is up to you. Level 2+ will give you less mana reservation, meaning a larger mana pool, which you do want for quality of life.
Swap Wrath for Purity of Elements(21) when doing Elemental Weakness maps. I can 100% assure you that you will not be capped on resists in those maps with this build, so Purity is a must.

(4-6L) Spectral Throw(21+20) - Greater Multiple Projectiles(21+20) - Weapon Elemental Damage(21+20) - Elemental Focus(21+20) - Lightning Penetration(21+20) - Added Lightning Damage(21+20)
This is in order of importance. Drop Added Lightning Damage in a 5L, drop Lightning Penetration in a 4L.

Socket these gems into your 3L setups. They do not require links, so you can drop them in and they will work fine. Having all 3 of these gems is a must.

Spoiler

Lightning Golem(21) --> Attack Speed buff, temporary lightning dmg aura it gives is nice too.

Flame Dash(20) --> Quality of life. Ledges / fences / stairs are annoying. Dash past them.

Ancestral Protector(21) --> This is here purely for the attack speed buff. You can socket this with faster attacks if you decide that you want it to help with single target DPS.


Nice work... Unfortunately, the OP has abandoned the build, and the rest of us don't have the ability to edit his posts. :(
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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Nightyb wrote:
Nice guide, but I'm forever having to double-check what levels/quality are optimal, so I've "prettied up" your gem list and added level/quality indicators for you to fill out (I guessed some initial values)! :)

Key and examples:
<Gem>(<Level>[<+|>][<quality>])
(3) = level 3 with 0% quality
(21+20) = level 21 with 20% quality
(20+22) = level 20 with 22% quality
(21|22) = (level 21 with 20% quality) OR (level 20 with 22% quality)


Spoiler

(3L) Whirling Blades(20+20) - Faster Attacks(21|22) - Fortify(2)

(3L) Cast When Damage Taken(1) - Immortal Call(3) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Vaal Haste(20) - Vaal Discipline(20) - Increased Duration(21|22)

(3L) Discipline(21) - Wrath(21) - Enlighten(3)
Enlighten is up to you. Level 2+ will give you less mana reservation, meaning a larger mana pool, which you do want for quality of life.
Swap Wrath for Purity of Elements(21) when doing Elemental Weakness maps. I can 100% assure you that you will not be capped on resists in those maps with this build, so Purity is a must.

(4-6L) Spectral Throw(21+20) - Greater Multiple Projectiles(21+20) - Weapon Elemental Damage(21+20) - Elemental Focus(21+20) - Lightning Penetration(21+20) - Added Lightning Damage(21+20)
This is in order of importance. Drop Added Lightning Damage in a 5L, drop Lightning Penetration in a 4L.

Socket these gems into your 3L setups. They do not require links, so you can drop them in and they will work fine. Having all 3 of these gems is a must.

Spoiler

Lightning Golem(21) --> Attack Speed buff, temporary lightning dmg aura it gives is nice too.

Flame Dash(20) --> Quality of life. Ledges / fences / stairs are annoying. Dash past them.

Ancestral Protector(21) --> This is here purely for the attack speed buff. You can socket this with faster attacks if you decide that you want it to help with single target DPS.




Most of those are right, however fortify is best 1/20 to get the extra duration (however small) from quality.
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grimjack68 wrote:

Nice work... Unfortunately, the OP has abandoned the build, and the rest of us don't have the ability to edit his posts. :(


Doh! Perhaps builds should be on a wiki or something? *shrug*
Last edited by Nightyb#1521 on May 9, 2017, 12:37:39 AM
Hey, thanks for the awesome guide!

Could you please help me figure out what is lacking on my build as I'm struggling with the Guardians. I managed to get Minotaur down after several deaths (figuring out whether to facetank or kite him o_o), but for example Chimera's adds seem to be pain in the ass.. They seem to outrange me and even with all the leech I am slowly but surely going to die.

Here's my current gear:



and here is my passive tree:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAHRAecDHgQHBfkHHg5ID6sRLxFQEYERlhR1FdcV8Ba_FyYZihnXGlUbJRvIHU8fAh9BIvQj0yo4Kwosvy0fLlMwWzW5Nj02xTboPL5B0EMxRmlJUUuuTLNM_04qVP5WSFZjVvpbr13yX2pfcGEhY6dsC20ZbWxvJ3XLd9d4-XqEft1_K3_Gg22ExYTvhq6Nfo25j2CP-pMnlS6VzJcGmmqbJpu1n8uhL6OKpMKnK6cwrTOv67VIvea-ir6nwzrEos2Yz93QH9Ct0NDTb9gk2NXZW9rB3UbjhOd05-ro1ukC6mLsGO0_7g7v6_DV8Yr5M_lj_W4=


I am thinking my accuracy might be too low (1,9k rating, 86% hit chance), but I already have acc rating in my gear + in one of the passive jewels, shouldn't that be enough? My dps in ho (w/ disc,wrath and thunder golem) is 35,8k and ES 10,6k.

Thanks again!
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limchu wrote:
Hey, thanks for the awesome guide!

Could you please help me figure out what is lacking on my build as I'm struggling with the Guardians. I managed to get Minotaur down after several deaths (figuring out whether to facetank or kite him o_o), but for example Chimera's adds seem to be pain in the ass.. They seem to outrange me and even with all the leech I am slowly but surely going to die.

Here's my current gear:



and here is my passive tree:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAHRAecDHgQHBfkHHg5ID6sRLxFQEYERlhR1FdcV8Ba_FyYZihnXGlUbJRvIHU8fAh9BIvQj0yo4Kwosvy0fLlMwWzW5Nj02xTboPL5B0EMxRmlJUUuuTLNM_04qVP5WSFZjVvpbr13yX2pfcGEhY6dsC20ZbWxvJ3XLd9d4-XqEft1_K3_Gg22ExYTvhq6Nfo25j2CP-pMnlS6VzJcGmmqbJpu1n8uhL6OKpMKnK6cwrTOv67VIvea-ir6nwzrEos2Yz93QH9Ct0NDTb9gk2NXZW9rB3UbjhOd05-ro1ukC6mLsGO0_7g7v6_DV8Yr5M_lj_W4=


I am thinking my accuracy might be too low (1,9k rating, 86% hit chance), but I already have acc rating in my gear + in one of the passive jewels, shouldn't that be enough? My dps in ho (w/ disc,wrath and thunder golem) is 35,8k and ES 10,6k.

Thanks again!
Let's see here.
- You're missing INT on one of your rings and your belt.
- You haven't specced out of Written in Blood and it's 3 support life nodes.
- You don't have a bleed flask.

I would suggest:
- Work on the missing INT on your gear if you can afford it.
- Drop Written in Blood and it's supporting life nodes. Pick up Wisdom of the Glade, Thief's Craft, and reconnect your tree using the INT point directly above Volatile Mines. Throw the other point into whatever you like. I'd be tempted to drop the DEX nodes near the ranger start and take the projectile damage nodes below them instead.
- I'd try to drop your current gloves for a set of Shaper's Touch instead, even if you need to drop a damage jewel to balance resists.
- Re-roll your Silver flask for bleed damage. It's rare that a curse has that much of an effect, bleed can kill you.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
Hi, can someone check my gear and let me know if I should be shaper viable? I'm reluctant to spend more on the character (saving for next one) but I wanted to try the endgame stuff.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAHnAx4EBwX5DkgPqxEvEVARgRGWFHUV1xXwFr8XJhmKGdcaVRvIHU8fAh9BIvQj0yo4Kwosvy0fLlMwWzW5Nj02xTboPL5B0EMxRmlMs0z_TipU_lWFVkhWY1b6Whpbr13yX2pfcGEhYlpjp2wLbRltbG8ndct313j5eoR-3X8rf8aDbYTFhO-Gro1-jbmPYI_6kAqTJ5XMlwaaapsmm7Wfy6Evo4qly6crpzCtM6_rtUi95r6KvqfBxcMzwzrEos2Yz93QH9Ct0NDTb9gk2NXawd1G35jjhOd05-ro1upi6xTsGO0_7g7v6_GK-TP5Y_1u?accountName=poepoe091&characterName=Cyeleia

Either i'm doing something wrong, or this build isnt so endgame viable as it seems. I'm at 9.8k es / 37.5k dps (wrath + golem + gmp), and i'm having a hard time doing izaro.

I made an ice whisperer build before this one, and somehow did uber lab alot easyer by just facetanking izaro, which i cant do now. While i invested alot more currency in this build.

Any advice on tanking hard hitting bosses?

Should i use orb of storms to get frenzy charges / EO quicker at bosses?
Last edited by Grimstarz#4375 on May 10, 2017, 4:04:27 PM
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poepoe091 wrote:
Hi, can someone check my gear and let me know if I should be shaper viable? I'm reluctant to spend more on the character (saving for next one) but I wanted to try the endgame stuff.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAHnAx4EBwX5DkgPqxEvEVARgRGWFHUV1xXwFr8XJhmKGdcaVRvIHU8fAh9BIvQj0yo4Kwosvy0fLlMwWzW5Nj02xTboPL5B0EMxRmlMs0z_TipU_lWFVkhWY1b6Whpbr13yX2pfcGEhYlpjp2wLbRltbG8ndct313j5eoR-3X8rf8aDbYTFhO-Gro1-jbmPYI_6kAqTJ5XMlwaaapsmm7Wfy6Evo4qly6crpzCtM6_rtUi95r6KvqfBxcMzwzrEos2Yz93QH9Ct0NDTb9gk2NXawd1G35jjhOd05-ro1upi6xTsGO0_7g7v6_GK-TP5Y_1u?accountName=poepoe091&characterName=Cyeleia

You should be good to go. If you know the mechanics of shaper at all, you'll be fine.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.

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