[2.6] CRIT HoWA BF/ST Raider [13k ES, 60k BF/265k GMP ST DPS, Stun-immune] [4 sec Chayula kill]

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blublablubla wrote:


Our trees are similar, nearly identical I would say. Even tho he has Str jewel our int are the same. And if he has one extra jewel that counts as a fraction of the dmg difference. I've noted the helm enchant but except that..


I mean looking at your trees and gear, you lack the 2 jewel sockets that he has since he went with the builds tree, also he picks up 2 frenzy charges that you don't.

Since he uses shaper's touch he gains a lot of accuracy and you seem to lack accuracy on your gear by quite a lot, I'm interested in knowing how much % accuracy you have on your ST.

Also your 6 link contains faster attacks which is by far not optimal on your ST 6 link, you want to use lightning penetration over that.

The last thing I can see is that you only use 2 dps flasks, which is vessel of vinktar and diamond flask, he uses silver flask and atziri's promise ontop of that and this does give a lot of tooltip dps.
I am in love with ST HOWA.

What a fun build to play up to lvl 86 so far.

I have saved up around 1ex and 100chaos currency. Would appreciate if you could review my profile and critique & advise what to focus on upgrade wise.

Thanks !!
If anyone has time to look, I'd appreciate getting some feedback on my gear / tree for to progress from where I'm at. Right now about 60k hideout DPS with GMP and 9.5k ES. At the moment I strongly prefer to keep Druidic Rite; it makes mana management a lot less stressful since I can afford to hit air a good bit more without running out of mana, plus the increased flask uptime I find is a pretty substantial buff in most situations.

Ideas:
1) Replace gloves with Shaper's Touch, buy new rings since I won't need accuracy on them anymore.
2) Path on the outside of the tree instead of towards Foresight; however having played with this in Path of Building I haven't found a way that this is strictly better than the current build, it will gain either DPS or ES at the expense of the other.

I'm shopping for gear upgrades, but everything that works with my resists etc as a single piece upgrade seems to be running into the double digit exalt range so I'm pretty hesitant to pull the trigger on that for what will be a fairly small upgrade.
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SorakPoE wrote:
If anyone has time to look, I'd appreciate getting some feedback on my gear / tree for to progress from where I'm at. Right now about 60k hideout DPS with GMP and 9.5k ES. At the moment I strongly prefer to keep Druidic Rite; it makes mana management a lot less stressful since I can afford to hit air a good bit more without running out of mana, plus the increased flask uptime I find is a pretty substantial buff in most situations.

Ideas:
1) Replace gloves with Shaper's Touch, buy new rings since I won't need accuracy on them anymore.
2) Path on the outside of the tree instead of towards Foresight; however having played with this in Path of Building I haven't found a way that this is strictly better than the current build, it will gain either DPS or ES at the expense of the other.

I'm shopping for gear upgrades, but everything that works with my resists etc as a single piece upgrade seems to be running into the double digit exalt range so I'm pretty hesitant to pull the trigger on that for what will be a fairly small upgrade.


drop Druidic Rite

pick up pick up primal spirit under ballistic mastery
youll get +20 str and int with the mana gains
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Tremin wrote:
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blublablubla wrote:


Our trees are similar, nearly identical I would say. Even tho he has Str jewel our int are the same. And if he has one extra jewel that counts as a fraction of the dmg difference. I've noted the helm enchant but except that..


I mean looking at your trees and gear, you lack the 2 jewel sockets that he has since he went with the builds tree, also he picks up 2 frenzy charges that you don't.

Since he uses shaper's touch he gains a lot of accuracy and you seem to lack accuracy on your gear by quite a lot, I'm interested in knowing how much % accuracy you have on your ST.

Also your 6 link contains faster attacks which is by far not optimal on your ST 6 link, you want to use lightning penetration over that.

The last thing I can see is that you only use 2 dps flasks, which is vessel of vinktar and diamond flask, he uses silver flask and atziri's promise ontop of that and this does give a lot of tooltip dps.



Yeah I do general mapping with Atziri flask and silver flask. I also do normal mapping with crit damage instead of lightning pen unless I roll a +40% ele res map.

Since I decided to go with shaper gloves I found a lot of extra points on the tree by speccing out of nodes and going for jewel slots, hence why my multiplier is nice and chunky. Multiplier damage is HUGE when calculating your DPS on tooltip. the 120% crit chance on the boots is also a huge DPS boost.
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motoman006 wrote:

drop Druidic Rite

pick up pick up primal spirit under ballistic mastery
youll get +20 str and int with the mana gains


I considered this when picking which mana cluster to take, but tbh I don't think 20 Int is worth as much as 20% flask duration. Having flasks up will contribute somewhere on the order of 50-100% more DPS depending on which flasks you run and enemy lightning resists. My anecdotal experience is that against something like Minotaur, I can facetank the damage / kill the adds and in that scenario my non-Vinktar flasks are up somewhere around 40% of the time; so even taking the more pessimistic values in added damage, the flask up time gives me roughly 5% more damage overall. 20 Int gives me less than 2%, and 20 Str does literally nothing since I already have plenty to run lvl21 WED.

Obviously this is irrelevant against enemies that die in less than one round of flasks, but at this point those types of bosses are trivial anyway.
Hello, I'd like to ask you guys for some help.

I'm running Raider with pretty good gear.
I'm running Blade Flurry, not Spectral Throw.

My problem is, that my DPS is just low. - In Hideout its around 12k'ish. - According to the guide I should be around 25k - 35k.

Here's as follows

My Passive Tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAAGBfkLYQ18DY0OSBFQEZYV1xXwFfYXJhhdGYoZ1xzcIvQj0yT9KPoqCyo4LL8wWzLRNbk31Dy-PO89PkHQRUdGcU4qUUdWY1cNV8lbr13yX2pfcF-wYENieWhlaPJsC20Zbj1vJ2-ecFJyqXqEf8aDCYNthMWGronTjDaPGo9gj_qQCpJ9kyeVzJcGmG-aapu1ns2fy6Evo4qkeKcrpzCtM63xr2yv67QMuJO-isBmwcXB1cM6xPbGrspKytPQrdDQ0iHY1dwj3vjlz-dU5-rqGOq66-7sGO0_7g7zm_Pd9zL46_kz-WP8xf_e?accountName=Mike_Blackwater&characterName=Djingling_Balls

My Gear
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My DPS @Hideout for Blade Flurry
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Please help me out if you know what I am doing wrong.

Thank you all!
Best regards,
Djingling Balls
Last edited by Mike_Blackwater#0005 on Apr 3, 2017, 3:08:02 PM
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Mike_Blackwater wrote:
Hello, I'd like to ask you guys for some help.

I'm running Raider with pretty good gear.
I'm running Blade Flurry, not Spectral Throw.

My problem is, that my DPS is just low. - In Hideout its around 12k'ish. - According to the guide I should be around 25k - 35k.


I haven't played the BF variant, but on first glance the main thing you seem to be light on is Crit Multi. In my experience with ST adding more Crit Multi on jewels and skill tree is the biggest source of damage on a per-node basis.
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SorakPoE wrote:
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Mike_Blackwater wrote:
Hello, I'd like to ask you guys for some help.

I'm running Raider with pretty good gear.
I'm running Blade Flurry, not Spectral Throw.

My problem is, that my DPS is just low. - In Hideout its around 12k'ish. - According to the guide I should be around 25k - 35k.


I haven't played the BF variant, but on first glance the main thing you seem to be light on is Crit Multi. In my experience with ST adding more Crit Multi on jewels and skill tree is the biggest source of damage on a per-node basis.


Yes I'm trying to add more Crit Multiplier, but according to the guide he has smthing around 450% Multiplier... and ~100% Crit Multiplier doesnt make that much of a difference.
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SorakPoE wrote:
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motoman006 wrote:

drop Druidic Rite

pick up pick up primal spirit under ballistic mastery
youll get +20 str and int with the mana gains


I considered this when picking which mana cluster to take, but tbh I don't think 20 Int is worth as much as 20% flask duration. Having flasks up will contribute somewhere on the order of 50-100% more DPS depending on which flasks you run and enemy lightning resists. My anecdotal experience is that against something like Minotaur, I can facetank the damage / kill the adds and in that scenario my non-Vinktar flasks are up somewhere around 40% of the time; so even taking the more pessimistic values in added damage, the flask up time gives me roughly 5% more damage overall. 20 Int gives me less than 2%, and 20 Str does literally nothing since I already have plenty to run lvl21 WED.

Obviously this is irrelevant against enemies that die in less than one round of flasks, but at this point those types of bosses are trivial anyway.


thats a good point

i dont have eitehr node and can facetank minotaur
but i miss the mana regen of having primordal spirit when i did have it
i need to be lvl 96 for the nodes i want

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