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dro0p wrote:
the vaal haste/discipline. I'm not too sure about. I understand the dmg boost ofc.. but I don't use it that often at the moment. I plow through everything without using these often. Especially the discipline .. Having a ES boost for a couple of seconds.. I don't really see the point. Maybe at harder content, the big bosses.. But I haven't done those yet. So can't say.

1. Vaal Discipline is for some bonus health/healing and it works on the whole party. It doesn't last very long so use it like a life flask. I think it's best for builds that don't run leech or supports. Examples include summoners, totems, aurabots, cursers, trappers, caustic arrow, essence drain, etc. I personally wouldn't use it for this build except maybe in hardcore.

2. Vaal Lightning Trap is good for difficult enemies because you deal 50% more damage due to shocked ground. It's only good if you don't kill something quickly and it doesn't move around. The traps can die as they're being placed so it can be more hassle than it's worth. You get three of them to place at a time so normally it's best to just throw them all and hope one sticks. I haven't considered using them in mapping but it could be very useful for guardians, Uber Atziri, Uber Izar, Shaper, etc.

3. Vaal Haste is for everything. I use it in every build because it's just that good. Use it on cooldown and it will help you clear 25% faster and safer.


What do you recommend using in place of Vaal Discipline? I too find myself very rarely using it in my current t10ish mapping. Vaal Haste is a must and I really need to remember to activate it much more often than I usually do now. The only issue I have with it is it seems to take a few button presses to activate so sometimes I hit the key and get nothing.
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What is the gem priority if you can only get 5 links while using death's hand for your offhand? I'd guess Blade Flurry > faster attacks > increased area of effect / conc effect > void manipulation > added chaos damage?
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ride1226 wrote:
What do you recommend using in place of Vaal Discipline? I too find myself very rarely using it in my current t10ish mapping. Vaal Haste is a must and I really need to remember to activate it much more often than I usually do now. The only issue I have with it is it seems to take a few button presses to activate so sometimes I hit the key and get nothing.

Blood Rage, Portal, Vaal Lightning Trap, Lightning Warp/Flame Dash (to get over walls), another Vaal Haste, Decoy Totem, a Warcry, Ancestral Warchief. I personally don't like Warchief because it's a pain to set up and we don't get enough strength to level the totem so that it can survive.

It shouldn't take multiple button presses but it does have a cast time. Possibly you're stunned/frozen when you're casting. It can be canceled with a stun. Try holding the button down for a quarter second instead of tapping it. I've played a lowlife Vaal Spark build and that would often be canceled due to stuns since I didn't wear Chayula and instead opted for max block Lazhwar setup.
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inside of your main gem setup.
Have u ever consider of using bloodlust gem.
I mean we will be using voidheart ring right?

Blade flurry
- increase melee damage
- increase melee damage on full life
- faster attack
- increase area of effect / concentrated effect
- increase critical damage

melee damage on full life gem
- at q23: It gave 50.5 increase damage (during full life only)

concentrated effect gem
- at q23: It gave 60.5% increase damage (aoe -25%)

increase area of effect gem
- at q23: It gave 40.4 increase damage (aoe +39%)

bloodlust gem
- at q23: It gave 60.5% (during bleed only)


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trwong93 wrote:
What is the gem priority if you can only get 5 links while using death's hand for your offhand? I'd guess Blade Flurry > faster attacks > increased area of effect / conc effect > void manipulation > added chaos damage?

That's BRGGG on a blue chest which isn't cheap. I haven't played around with gems to give proper advice on the subject because I'm looking for a cheap 6L 900 es chest. I probably wouldn't run Added Chaos Damage without Void Manipulation and Wither Totem. At the moment I'm still in a heavy Physical setup and mostly having trouble with aids maps and Guardians.

I will say that swapping between Inc AOE and Conc is often more trouble than it's worth. Juggling gems can cause you to lose power charges and die. This is partly why I suggest PCOC + Orb of Storms. Also, the extra range from Inc AOE often makes fights safer and the odds of missing your target are lower. For example, even though Shavronne is a single target you won't be able to avoid her balls if you're in her face. The build has a ton of damage so killing bosses in 8 seconds instead of 5 is fine.
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StupidSmile wrote:
Have u ever consider of using bloodlust gem.
I mean we will be using voidheart ring right?

You would need to apply Bleed through a different skill than linked to Bloodlust to get the bonus. Even with a perfect Voidheart you only have 80% chance to cause Bleeding. This isn't consistent enough to be worth it. You can put Bloodlust in your Warchief totem, however. The main use for Bloodlust as far as I know is with Disfavor + Leap Slam > EQ/Cyclone. Even then it forces you to play very aggressive and risky. Similarly this build you could Shield Charge into a pack and unleash damage but that seems stupid. This build also relies heavily on Poison and Chaos damage so It's probably not the optimal gem since it puts all your eggs in the Physical basket.

Voidheart is not required for this build. Overall I think it adds 6-8% damage, and probably up to 12% with Void Manipulation. It's definitely better than Mings. It mostly gives your damage consistency by giving you 100% poison and 80% bleed chance instead of 70% poison and 30% bleed. I'm not using it but it's probably better than a Death's Hand in the long run.
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Is there any viable way to get away from using Kiara's? I have been cruising through red maps with relative ease and the only time I die now is when I get stun locked with no flask charges left. For example the sea witch boss with the lock on lazer beam has run me out of flask charges and consequently locked me down to die. Also have had a few other occasions just the same.

I would love to change out void heart for maybe valyrium or change out my ammy to the anti stun ammy (name is missing from my mind currently) but the str I lose from taking off my ammy kills my red skill gems and taking off the voidheart would probably kill my poison dps.
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ride1226 wrote:
Is there any viable way to get away from using Kiara's? I have been cruising through red maps with relative ease and the only time I die now is when I get stun locked with no flask charges left. For example the sea witch boss with the lock on lazer beam has run me out of flask charges and consequently locked me down to die. Also have had a few other occasions just the same.

I would love to change out void heart for maybe valyrium or change out my ammy to the anti stun ammy (name is missing from my mind currently) but the str I lose from taking off my ammy kills my red skill gems and taking off the voidheart would probably kill my poison dps.

I use Valyrium with a crit multi on amulet. A good steel ring with Chayula is another option. If you run a shield you should be able to get enough resists to overcap and wear Voidheart along with Valyrium/Chayula.
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That is my current gear. The issue that I have is that when I take off my ammy I lose the str needed to use all of the red gems this build makes use of. Also, I have already picked up the 30str node thats right on our tree. Any ideas?
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ride1226 wrote:
That is my current gear. The issue that I have is that when I take off my ammy I lose the str needed to use all of the red gems this build makes use of. Also, I have already picked up the 30str node thats right on our tree. Any ideas?


1. Jewels
2. Pick up Void Barrier and the 30 str node by it.
3. Delevel your red gems until you have enough str.
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