Content Update 2.5.0 Patch Notes

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Tormented_Spirit wrote:

It's silly how little is done to balance, it's almost like just 1 person was on the balancing team working a parttime job at GGG.
For such a game as Path of Exile the balance changes should be about 3 pages long with this size of text on an A4.

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eggzyl wrote:

Well, GGG, you dont have to gather all the people in the same genre man. Make another default game mod but call it "casual". HC players are boss yeah. Standart players are standard ok, good. And casual players are well...casual. They would get items easier. They do more damage, take less damage. Altogether different POE experience. Their merciless would be like normal for puppies. Why not? You can make everyone happy there is a way, but not in the same leagues man. Seperate them.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

Ancestral Warchief now does 10% less damage at all levels. Fixed behaviour with the center of the slam being significantly further away than the totem's melee range. The skill now has +10 melee range at all levels, and the slam will always be centered at melee range away from the totem.

So does this mean that the effective range can no longer be scaled with increased AOE? Ancestral Protector has a +16 to melee range and clears like crap in comparison to current Ancestral Warchief because its targeting range is too small (+16 melee range is too small). So Ancestral Warchief is going to be even worse at targeting mobs?

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SaiyanZ wrote:

Ancestral Warchief now does 10% less damage at all levels. Fixed behaviour with the center of the slam being significantly further away than the totem's melee range. The skill now has +10 melee range at all levels, and the slam will always be centered at melee range away from the totem.

So does this mean that the effective range can no longer be scaled with increased AOE? Ancestral Protector has a +16 to melee range and clears like crap in comparison to current Ancestral Warchief because its targeting range is too small (+16 melee range is too small). So Ancestral Warchief is going to be even worse at targeting mobs?

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SaiyanZ wrote:

Ancestral Warchief now does 10% less damage at all levels. Fixed behaviour with the center of the slam being significantly further away than the totem's melee range. The skill now has +10 melee range at all levels, and the slam will always be centered at melee range away from the totem.

So does this mean that the effective range can no longer be scaled with increased AOE? Ancestral Protector has a +16 to melee range and clears like crap in comparison to current Ancestral Warchief because its targeting range is too small (+16 melee range is too small). So Ancestral Warchief is going to be even worse at targeting mobs?

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Harmona wrote:

I still see people thinking that Vessel of Vinktar is OP and that it should be nerfed, just because one imbalanced ascendancy class.

To clarify: Vaal Pact + Vessel of Vinktar is the ONLY way to survive reflected damage from rare monsters, given a damage threshold, for a tremendous amount of builds. There is no workaround. You have this, or you can't kill said rare monster... which is a huge flaw in the game's mechanics.

The moment they nerf Vinktar's and leave reflected damage as it is, it would be the death of every non-totem, non-support, non-trap build that exists.

So please take a moment to think about this. Then stop asking for a Vinktar's nerf and nothing for the completely unbalanced reflected damage from a SINGLE monster.

WITH THE CURRENT DAMAGE THRESHOLDS, REFLECTED DAMAGE HAS BECOME A HUGE ISSUE AND VINKTAR'S IS THE ONLY VIABLE SOLUTION. EITHER LOWER THE OVERALL DAMAGE OUTPUTS (AND LOWER OVERALL MONSTER HP)OR NERF REFLECTED DAMAGE BEFORE EVEN CONSIDERING TOUCHING VINKTAR'S.