[2.6] CI Best Scourge ClawFlurry, Up to 134+ Mill DPS,Uber/Shaper/Guardians, Budget Version Inc.

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diablokiller1 wrote:

This is my current tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAAEJBx4HmQ5IEHsQkhEvEVARlhXXFe0V_Ra_GyUdTyLqIvQnqSoLKjgrCiy_MjI1uT1fRfRHBklRSbFLCkscS65SU1S9VmNcQF3yX2phBmSvaoxqlWwLbRltbG9XcFJ1_XgZfll_xoRvhKKExYauidOKOIw2jYGPwY_6koCTJ5OQlS6Wi5eVl_SaF5u1oS-i2aZ_pyupNLDYtMW1SLfZuNm8b76KvwDBoMM6yBTN6tDQ1ELVudYH18_ZW9mG2xrb591I53To1ukC6xTrY-wY7UHviPDV9W_5Nw==

It has 481% increased damage that goes to blade flurry attack damage.

So it's like multiplying by 5.81

Scourge gives 70% increased damage, making it 551% increased damage.

It's not "more", it does'nt make (481% * 1.7), it makes (481 + 70)%.

Buffs is still great. But Scourge has low base damage as a Claw. Claw with higher pdps will give more damage even without 70% increased damage.

For example:

On my character has tooltip damage per use
1370
After 1 hit
1525

This claw for 5c with better base damage

deals
1849
per 1 use

deals
1593


There is also parameter APS - attacks per second. With Scourge it's 5.81 APS. So 1525*5.81 = 8860 DPS of blade flurry

On this claw i can craft AS (need vagan that i don't have), it will have 1.5 APS. This is 5.08 APS for my character. Damage is (1849*5.08) = 9392

For Terror Clow it's 8092 dps.


Best claw for BF on POETRADE has price 25ex.

This claw on poe
Bramble Needle Vaal Claw Yesterday
Level: 66 Dexterity: 95 Intelligence: 131 ilvl: 85
2% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
154% increased Physical Damage P3
Adds 21 to 44 Physical Damage P?
craftedCan have multiple Crafted Mods
crafted15% increased Attack Speed
crafted23% increased Critical Strike Chance
craftedCauses Bleeding on Hit
total: 2% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
Quality Phys. Elem. APS DPS pDPS eDPS
20 132-318 1.5 337.5 337.5
Armour Evasion Shield Block Crit. Level


Has base damage (132+318)/2 = 225 and APS 1.5
It will do approximatly 11 000 dps with my build


Conclusion: yes Scourge is good. But for end game build if u have lots' of exalted - u should manually go for high base damage (not dps) and decent APS (at least 1.5). It will do more than scourge.

As i showed above - i've baught for 5c claw with high base damage - and it's damage already far better than scourge. Ofc i was lucky with price. But still with a budget the right yellow claws are better.


P.s.
I use cheap scourge with 138 base damage. But best on poetrade for 10ex is 150 base damage. S0 it's 8% better.
Also i did calculations for 1 claw. With dual wild Scourge that's additional 70% increased damage. So yes. I'd say yellow rare claw will do same damage as duo scorge if they have pdps 300+. And only best claws 20ex+ will show more damage while dual wielding. So still rare best claws give more. But their price is really high. So for budget less than couple exalted dual scourge is best option, but u will have with ur unlimited budget more damage if u switch to proper rare claws and drop all this minion damage on tree and jewels.

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diablokiller1 wrote:

I assure u my calculations are right.

And top tier yellow claws will give u more damage than u now have.

All these 140% increased damage is good. But not in case when Scourge base damage is 150 and top tier claws 220. +70 base damage much more than +140% increased damage.

As for Bleed and Poison. Bleed does not stack. Bleed is for huge rare hits. Here we have high AS. Only one instance of Bleed will work.
Poison stacks. But still. Bleed and Poison - delayed damage. Yes if u run away they will still be losing hp. But it's all just ...
U need them to die. And fast. Not with this delayed mechanics.
Better not invest nor in bleed nor in poison at all.

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zabosnu wrote:

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diablokiller1 wrote:

This is my current tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYBAAEJBx4HmQ5IEHsQkhEvEVARlhXXFe0V_Ra_GyUdTyLqIvQnqSoLKjgrCiy_MjI1uT1fRfRHBklRSbFLCkscS65SU1S9VmNcQF3yX2phBmSvaoxqlWwLbRltbG9XcFJ1_XgZfll_xoRvhKKExYauidOKOIw2jYGPwY_6koCTJ5OQlS6Wi5eVl_SaF5u1oS-i2aZ_pyupNLDYtMW1SLfZuNm8b76KvwDBoMM6yBTN6tDQ1ELVudYH18_ZW9mG2xrb591I53To1ukC6xTrY-wY7UHviPDV9W_5Nw==

It has 481% increased damage that goes to blade flurry attack damage.

So it's like multiplying by 5.81

Scourge gives 70% increased damage, making it 551% increased damage.

It's not "more", it does'nt make (481% * 1.7), it makes (481 + 70)%.

Buffs is still great. But Scourge has low base damage as a Claw. Claw with higher pdps will give more damage even without 70% increased damage.

For example:

On my character has tooltip damage per use
1370
After 1 hit
1525

This claw for 5c with better base damage

deals
1849
per 1 use

deals
1593


There is also parameter APS - attacks per second. With Scourge it's 5.81 APS. So 1525*5.81 = 8860 DPS of blade flurry

On this claw i can craft AS (need vagan that i don't have), it will have 1.5 APS. This is 5.08 APS for my character. Damage is (1849*5.08) = 9392

For Terror Clow it's 8092 dps.


Best claw for BF on POETRADE has price 25ex.

This claw on poe
Bramble Needle Vaal Claw Yesterday
Level: 66 Dexterity: 95 Intelligence: 131 ilvl: 85
2% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
154% increased Physical Damage P3
Adds 21 to 44 Physical Damage P?
craftedCan have multiple Crafted Mods
crafted15% increased Attack Speed
crafted23% increased Critical Strike Chance
craftedCauses Bleeding on Hit
total: 2% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life
Quality Phys. Elem. APS DPS pDPS eDPS
20 132-318 1.5 337.5 337.5
Armour Evasion Shield Block Crit. Level


Has base damage (132+318)/2 = 225 and APS 1.5
It will do approximatly 11 000 dps with my build


Conclusion: yes Scourge is good. But for end game build if u have lots' of exalted - u should manually go for high base damage (not dps) and decent APS (at least 1.5). It will do more than scourge.

As i showed above - i've baught for 5c claw with high base damage - and it's damage already far better than scourge. Ofc i was lucky with price. But still with a budget the right yellow claws are better.


P.s.
I use cheap scourge with 138 base damage. But best on poetrade for 10ex is 150 base damage. S0 it's 8% better.
Also i did calculations for 1 claw. With dual wild Scourge that's additional 70% increased damage. So yes. I'd say yellow rare claw will do same damage as duo scorge if they have pdps 300+. And only best claws 20ex+ will show more damage while dual wielding. So still rare best claws give more. But their price is really high. So for budget less than couple exalted dual scourge is best option, but u will have with ur unlimited budget more damage if u switch to proper rare claws and drop all this minion damage on tree and jewels.

Again, you are completely ignoring everything I have said in the guide and in my previous post. You are incorrect. My current tool-tip with dual scourge claws is 123,000+ (Tool-Tip), this does not include the increased damage for bleed and poison. Please match it, Mr. Mathematica. Into one ear and out the other, as they say.

Here is a video of me demonstrating dual-wield scourge claws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TVVlutOXSM

Please, pick any claws of your choice right now and beat that damage. Also, i urge you to learn and understand the difference between "global", "increased" and "more." Scourge claws provide us with GLOBAL DAMAGE.

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AHAB_10 wrote:

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ex_vitek wrote:

hello, started this build today,my dps at ho is like 2800, profile is open.. im kinda sad

not sure to invest in gloves atm

Swap to CI, get abyssus and void heart, and go from there.

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Showatt wrote:

Can this be done with trickster? I really don't like playing assassin for some reason.

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pobubas wrote:

where do u get so much mana regen from ? i cant even use whirling blade more then 5times and im oom dont have skyforths though