[2.6] CI Best Scourge ClawFlurry, Up to 134+ Mill DPS,Uber/Shaper/Guardians, Budget Version Inc.

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Merdento wrote:

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Astrohawke wrote:

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zabosnu wrote:

Thank you for the false warning. Now back to my character in HardCore where I only spent 4 exalts and have done all of the high tier bosses (including shaper, uber atziri, guardians).

Can you show us the stats and gear on this character then instead of the OP one in standard. A lot of people are reporting only being able to get 7-10k damage in hideout without overinflating tooltip numbers with buffs/flasks. What kind of stats are you getting with only 4 ex investment so we can compare.

No, he can't, because its not true.

As simple as that.

Now I'm not saying this is a bad build, it is obviously a very strong build if you have the currency that it requires (which is A LOT).

But when I started this I remember watching a video of this guy saying you could DOMINATE with only 10c investment in gear (that was at the start of the leage, when the scourge claws were selling for 1.5ex lol), of course I knew that was a little exaggerated but I didn't expect it to be a straight up LIE. Either you spend a shit ton of ex in gear of all you will dominate are shit maps.

I can attest that I did not feel truly comfortable with this build in T14+ until I had well over 70ex worth of gear/jewels at the times that I purchased/valued them (I got a few good deals from self-finding/crafting some stuff or getting on trade at the right moment when someone listed an item for way below typical value). Each of my five rare jewels is likely worth at least 1ex (and I exalted them all), two 240 pdps scourge claws (more expensive when I bought them), 850 es tri-res chest, skyforth, T1 str 130 ES crystal belt, gloves with high accuracy, fairly gg rare ring and amulet, 39% poison voidheart, pretty gg abyssus, and flasks.

Guardians still almost guarantee portal losses for me with all of that.

I'm sure it can work for cheaper. As zabosnu has said a few times, this build is extremely skill level-dependent. My skill level precluded me from enjoying this build until I basically had all of the above.

Hello,

Very nice build, good job!

i'm coming back to the game and using it right now, lvling a assassin.

I would like to know wich one do u prefer between CI / LL, whats the safer one and whats the powerful one?

Thank you.

hmm its imposible have 110k dps ..

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zabosnu wrote:

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Cordovan wrote:

Maybe a stupid question, but what about physi-reflect Mobs or maps. Is there so much life-leech that this doesn't matter?!?

If you have a physical-reflect map mod then you can try the following:

-Physical to lightning support gem
-added chaos support gem
-Dyadian Dawn (no physical damage)


Physical reflect mobs in normal maps are fine as long as you tap them one time (one click). If the the initial hit doesn't kill them then the bleed/poison will.

Okay, thanks a lot for the hints!

hello, started this build today,my dps at ho is like 2800, profile is open.. im kinda sad

not sure to invest in gloves atm

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ex_vitek wrote:

hello, started this build today,my dps at ho is like 2800, profile is open.. im kinda sad

not sure to invest in gloves atm

Swap to CI, get abyssus and void heart, and go from there.

Can i ask a question: why use Scourge at all?

Scourge pdps is 250

And u can buy just usual rare yellow claws with higher pdps.

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diablokiller1 wrote:

Can i ask a question: why use Scourge at all?

Scourge pdps is 250

And u can buy just usual rare yellow claws with higher pdps.

Your question is answered in the "How it works" section of the guide.

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The main weapon that we are using is "The Scourge" claw. This claw is extremely powerful (if not too OP), especially since we are dual wielding it. Dual wielding gives us 10% MORE attack speed, 15% additional block chance, and 20% MORE Attack Physical damage. On top of this, the claws give us 140% increased global damage (since we are dual wielding). This means that our physical, poison, and bleed damage is increased by 140%. On top of that, you can get "Minions deal % increased damage" on jewels/gear (and enchantments) and that will provide even more increased global damage. So, you are getting much more increased global damage than just 140% from the claws. The claws also give us a flat 2% life leech, combined with all the gear and tree our life leech is about 4%.

Well if we use other 2 claws - we recieve same dual wield bonuses.

Scourge gives 70% increased damage. It's not global. It's more like "double deep", so first phys damage, then poison+bleed.
But it's not global. It's not "more", it just goes + to other increase damage nodes. So not so much.

Top claw on poe is 340 pdps, and this scourge is 250 pdps.


Even 270 pdps claw will give more damage than scourge because base damage more important than this "increases" to damage. No need to by scourge at all.

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diablokiller1 wrote:

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The main weapon that we are using is "The Scourge" claw. This claw is extremely powerful (if not too OP), especially since we are dual wielding it. Dual wielding gives us 10% MORE attack speed, 15% additional block chance, and 20% MORE Attack Physical damage. On top of this, the claws give us 140% increased global damage (since we are dual wielding). This means that our physical, poison, and bleed damage is increased by 140%. On top of that, you can get "Minions deal % increased damage" on jewels/gear (and enchantments) and that will provide even more increased global damage. So, you are getting much more increased global damage than just 140% from the claws. The claws also give us a flat 2% life leech, combined with all the gear and tree our life leech is about 4%.

Well if we use other 2 claws - we recieve same dual wield bonuses.

Scourge gives 70% increased damage. It's not global. It's more like "double deep", so first phys damage, then poison+bleed.
But it's not global. It's not "more", it just goes + to other increase damage nodes. So not so much.

Top claw on poe is 340 pdps, and this scourge is 250 pdps.


Even 270 pdps claw will give more damage than scourge because base damage more important than this "increases" to damage. No need to by scourge at all.

You are incorrect. Please read up on the mechanics of how the Scourge claws really work. It is global damage, this is a fact not an opinion. The 140+% increased minion damage, is 140+% increased global damage, which increases your physical damage by 140+% (this further scales herald of ash, hatred, poison and bleed). On top of this, the 140+% then "double dips" into bleed and poison by increasing its damage directly. Please note the difference between "scaling" and "increasing". Don't forget that it's a lot more than 140%, we get more minion damage on gear/tree/jewels (I have about 240% increased global damage).

Also, please read up on the difference between "more", "increased", and "global". You are confusing the definitions between these words.


You can even sit down and work out the math and you will see that scourge claws are a lot more powerful than you assume.