[2.6] CI Best Scourge ClawFlurry, Up to 134+ Mill DPS,Uber/Shaper/Guardians, Budget Version Inc.

can u refresh gem links on helm/gloves/boots? Just dont understand how to get 3 auras, trap, blood rage etc. Thank you

fully buffed Shaper DPS with my gear, actual tree and no dual wield nodes ofc


same config without helmet + 2 Scourge


same config with Abyssus + 1 Scourge


same config with Abyssus + 2 Scourge



so DW Hubris is the weakest version

with a 500es hubris or a 500es shield I would have over 12.5k ES using this tree

if ES reduced to about 11k I could reach

13.6 million dps with the hubris (500es+400acc)

19.6 million dps with a shield (500es) !!

I really think we both are playing the wrong version... lol




just grabbed this for 9ex, fair enough :)





testing leech now


did some guardians for fragments and recorderd the Shaper kill

video

didnt even optimize the tree, so I ran with 12.7k es :D

leech seems to be fine, but it might lack with lower dps maybe

Are you missing the 40% BF enchant you can get on a hubris? That's the key and point, you can get a 400ES helm with the %40 BF enchant for like 3 EX - 4 Ex. An abyssus with the same enchant starts at like 30 Ex. (I'm guessing you used your abyssus with this enchant as well lol)

So instead of just removing the helm slot. Replace it with a helm with the enchant. You can even get Accuracy on the helm as well if you don't have enough elsewhere. Makes it way easier to make a complete build.

I'm seeing better numbers with hubris BF enchant dual claw, then claw/shield Abyssus no enchant.

The OP himself has 8.5k ES and most people are emulating his build - not yours. So if someone wants more defense, I still argue that a hubris is a solid option and even best option for some people.


Each person's build will be different, and that's why I only give suggestions based on my experiences, and am cool with people doing whatever they want.

But if someone wants a solid build that can do all content just fine and be tanky enough to not feel "too squishy" or have to juggle strength/resists/accuracy requirements that comes along with an Abyssus.

The Hubris option is still solid, and allows people to beat the game in a league they may not wanna spend 40 hours a week tweaking a single build for each prefix/suffix to be perfect.

"You can also swap out the Abyssus helmet for an ES helmet per your preference (or circumstance). The build still does a lot of damage even without Abyssus." From the OP on the front page


Also I've been playing this build with reave and cyclone lately, pretty fun as a switch up in styles. Still able to do pretty much all content although bladeflurry is still king.

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Lawyne wrote:

with a 500es hubris or a 500es shield I would have over 12.5k ES using this tree

if ES reduced to about 11k I could reach

13.6 million dps with the hubris (500es+400acc)

19.6 million dps with a shield (500es) !!

I really think we both are playing the wrong version... lol




just grabbed this for 9ex, fair enough :)

testing leech now


did some guardians for fragments and recorderd the Shaper kill

video

didnt even optimize the tree, so I ran with 12.7k es :D

leech seems to be fine, but it might lack with lower dps maybe

Might as well drop the scourge claw for a rare dagger/claw as well then and change our passives and jewels. If we gonna go full out on what is "BEST"

oh lord, yea I forgot the enchant, brings it to 15.1M instead of 13.8M but will u ever stop annoying?

the shield version does still about 25% MORE dmg than the hubris version. no idea how u came to the conclusion that it could be vice versa.

and hey, the guy had with lvl 82 already 8.2k es, was wearing Abyssus and running Arctic Armour just the way I do. he asked how to get more ES and getting less incoming dmg. he didnt ask YOU for any advice using another version so pls stop trying to influence anybody who is crossing this thread with ur weak shit.

hubris is the easiest and weakest way of this build, accept that finally, and further accept that there are ppl that are not always satisfied with the easiest way.
someone that is used to the dmg of dual wielding with Abyssus would never ever start to run the build with a hubris circlet, never. before that ever happened hell would be frozen, the one would quit playing the build or try to get better gear and trying to get advises to improve his survivability without sacrificing half of the damage lol.

you can always find other arguments like costs of gear, lacking of ES, resists or whatever, yea. if YOU cant stand those problems, and stick to the easy way, it is only YOUR problem, but not ours. so dont harras everyone with with ur problems.

u try to tell me that I get butt hurt when u say anything against Abyssus, but in real it is YOU that is pissed, not me. Now I've shown you 2 ways how to surv better than with the original build, and both sacrifice a lot less dmg than the common hubris way.

Accept it, do it or leave it, but please stfu and dont inject noob tactics to players that wanna reach more...

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kushorange wrote:

Might as well drop the scourge claw for a rare dagger/claw as well then and change our passives and jewels. If we gonna go full out on what is "BEST"

using daggers would be another build and just another attempt to get urself out of a tight spot. rare claws should be at least 400pdps to make it worth. for you that argue with prices a lot, it is not a good option.

I just imported your character to my path of building.
with ur tree and jewels the shield version and a 200% multi abyssus already does slightly more dmg than your current hubris build while having over 10k ES with a 500ES shield. and that is - I repeat - with only 200% multi on Abyssus and 5 - I repeat - 5 (!) dual wield mods on ur jewels that dont count when holding a shield.

that's still far away from 25% more dps with shield, maybe 5% so not worth to give up the 2% phys leech and attack speed from dual wielding and also not worth the costs for a transition to the shield version. also the ability to et accuracy on the helmet makes everything a bit EASIER.
but the numbers u posted without flasks and charges (very very far away from practise lol) were totally messed up or whatever and your conclusion hubris(dps)>shield(dps) is definately wrong.

I guess u just made the best out of your sources for the hubris build though and that's it.
Because if you imported my character you'd see the difference is much bigger, I already posted the numbers on last page... So gear, jewels and flasks always play a tough role.

The helm enchant with 150% increased effect of your ice golem is actually better than the blade flurry enchant. Test yourself.

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Synergy1337 wrote:

The helm enchant with 150% increased effect of your ice golem is actually better than the blade flurry enchant. Test yourself.

that depends on the used gear. for my setup bf enchant is more powerful, additionally it is always there, also when the golem died.

Guys need help.
Ive got items like this :

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and i can't finish uber lab.

4701 unbuffed ES
almost full res
5771 buffed ES.

What can i change/improve?

Im a new player and dont have tons of Chaos/Ex orb.

Peace

wearing Abyssus at that early stage of build assembling like yours is suicide.

in your case I highly recommend the Mortum Morsu + shield version until u have at least 1 ton of exalts and chaos.
built well it is also VERY powerful and much easier to get tanky with

best thing now would be to read the guide's budget section and get the right flasks as well :)