Nothing wrong with Blade Flurry, it's not OP it just doesn't suck like typical melee

People panicking their broken toy will get nerfed.

Well good news everyone, bf WILL get nerfed.

Tough.
IGN: SCHVAITZERIZER
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MAD_DAN wrote:
People panicking their broken toy will get nerfed.

Well good news everyone, bf WILL get nerfed.

Tough.


Barely passable relative to every caster gem in poe and requires multitudes more investment

"Broken"
my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes
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Bug Fixes:
People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it.
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Legatus1982 wrote:
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Poutsos wrote:

I think it is on par, and maybe a tiny bit below top tier bow skills, and top tier spells, but i would say that it propably holds up as on of the best 5 skills in the game.


Why does barely being on par with Casters which COST NOTHING make this gem op? I don't understand this concept where you can't level as melee, you build as caster until mid 70s when you can finally afford a weapon, then you spend several ex to finally play melee and be just barely comparable to ranged and caster builds is considered op? WTF is wrong with you people?


Because said casters are ridiculously OP, and being anywhere near that powerlevel means still OP. Easy concept.

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Legatus1982 wrote:
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Fruz wrote:

What the f*** seriously, you KNOW that they said that they are fixing melee targeting to put melee more in line with ranges and that the big overhaul is coming FROM this point, cut the c*** with that "they will never fix melee" BS.


Oh really? So it's coming in December league then? No?

How about 2.3? No? Hm.


You need to calm down already. Major improvementsw to namelocking have been confirmed to go along the 2.5 release. It's just been aon the lioneye's watch podcast with Rory Rackham. So CALM DOWN ALREADY! It's becoming insuifferable seeing you strike down anything people say with the claim that absolutely NOTHING happens at all. You know for a fact you're on the wrong track here. Is 2.5 the big melee rework? No. Is it going to be a vast improvement? Most likely. If you don't believe me, watch the podcast and have a chill-pill...
[quote="ScrotieMcB"]It's just, like, people's opinions, man.

But I cannot respect motherf♪♫♫♪rs calling something a simulator, when it isn't one.[/quote]

Mors edited this post first.
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Sure_K4y wrote:

Because said casters are ridiculously OP, and being anywhere near that powerlevel means still OP. Easy concept.

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Legatus1982 wrote:

Oh really? So it's coming in December league then? No?

How about 2.3? No? Hm.


You need to calm down already. Major improvementsw to namelocking have been confirmed to go along the 2.5 release. It's just been aon the lioneye's watch podcast with Rory Rackham. So CALM DOWN ALREADY! It's becoming insuifferable seeing you strike down anything people say with the claim that absolutely NOTHING happens at all. You know for a fact you're on the wrong track here. Is 2.5 the big melee rework? No. Is it going to be a vast improvement? Most likely. If you don't believe me, watch the podcast and have a chill-pill...


Namelock change isn't going to change anything about melee LOL

All those terrible melee skills, dual strike, double strike, heavy strike, etc. Those are not bad because of namelocking. You're horribly mislead as to what the problem with melee is.

If those caster gems are ridiculously OP why is there always at least 4 or 5 of them every single league at the top of the meta? EVERY SINGLE LEAGUE? SINCE BETA?

It's always going to be this way, stop acting like it isn't.
my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes
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Bug Fixes:
People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it.
Last edited by Legatus1982#1658 on Nov 21, 2016, 5:55:55 AM
the reaility is that blade flurry is a melee RANGED skill

i can kill easily twinned colosseum boss with my ranged tornado shot with MF rings+amulet and iiq gem, while i get hit hard and cant tank not twinned colosseum boss with reave and mirrored jewellery and no iiq gem.

you can buff melee gems by 50% or increase the range but ranged will still be better by far than melee; not get hit=win

blade flurry is a mix of the best features or melee and ranged and plus it has at least twice the damage of any other attack skill in the game, it's unbeliavable
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InAshesTheyShallReap wrote:
the reaility is that blade flurry is a melee RANGED skill

i can kill easily twinned colosseum boss with my ranged tornado shot with MF rings+amulet and iiq gem, while i get hit hard and cant tank not twinned colosseum boss with reave and mirrored jewellery and no iiq gem.

you can buff melee gems by 50% or increase the range but ranged will still be better by far than melee; not get hit=win

blade flurry is a mix of the best features or melee and ranged and plus it has at least twice the damage of any other attack skill in the game, it's unbeliavable


I bet you can leap tall buildings and run faster than a speeding bullet as well when you use blade flurry.

The only hysterical people in this thread are the nerf brigade.

For the love of god at least wait for your last list of super op going to kill game skills to get nerfed.

Oh and also, can you post link to your blade flurry build clearing all content with 15 chaos build like you people proclaimed coc to be capable of.
Ohh enough with the "building a caster costs nothing" BS seriously, so much bad faith it's pathetic.

Plus there are soo many amazing leveling weapons now, it makes leveling freaking fast, so stop with the nonsense already.
We are already reaching the really pathetic there ....

And to keep stating the obvious, attacks have many advantages over spells, it being related to leech, attack based keystones etc ...


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Legarus1982 wrote:
Namelock change isn't going to change anything about melee LOL

BS again, you have literally no idea what you are talking about.
Only GGG knows what is coming there, and what it really means. And it has been taking already quiiiiite some time.

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plodd wrote:
The only hysterical people in this thread are the nerf brigade.

For the love of god at least wait for your last list of super op going to kill game skills to get nerfed.

Wow, that's some lack og pragmatism there lol!

Lioneye's watch #13
Melee ( and likely global ) rework coming in 3.0
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Nov 21, 2016, 11:13:25 AM
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Fruz wrote:
Ohh enough with the "building a caster costs nothing" BS seriously, so much bad faith it's pathetic.

Plus there are soo many amazing leveling weapons now, it makes leveling freaking fast, so stop with the nonsense already.
We are already reaching the really pathetic there ....

And to keep stating the obvious, attacks have many advantages over spells, it being related to leech, attack based keystones etc ...


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Legarus1982 wrote:
Namelock change isn't going to change anything about melee LOL

BS again, you have literally no idea what you are talking about.
Only GGG knows what is coming there, and what it really means. And it has been taking already quiiiiite some time.

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plodd wrote:
The only hysterical people in this thread are the nerf brigade.

For the love of god at least wait for your last list of super op going to kill game skills to get nerfed.

Wow, that's some lack og pragmatism there lol!

Lioneye's watch #13
Melee ( and likely global ) rework coming in 3.0


It is a fact that there was less than 5 attack based builds in top 50 of last hc league, and iirc several of those were totem.

So regardless of what you say about the advantages of weapons or attacks, you're wrong.

As for the theoretical changes coming, if they fix melee, great feel free to nerf the necessary gems including bf. But that's not coming in December for certain, and I'm pretty sure it won't happen ever. So you have no excuse to nerf bf.
my evasion is so high i only insta rip sometimes
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Bug Fixes:
People were using cyclone for actual melee builds, so we nerfed it and made blade vortex. Also, we went ahead and made cyclone great for CoC casters while we were at it.
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Legatus1982 wrote:
It is a fact that there was less than 5 attack based builds in top 50 of last hc league, and iirc several of those were totem.


Facebreaker warchief, and nobody is surprised.

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Legatus1982 wrote:
So regardless of what you say about the advantages of weapons or attacks, you're wrong.


Mechanical advantages are not reflected ingame by way of powerlevel, that doesn't make mechanical advantages non-existant, it simply shows poor overall balance.

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Legatus1982 wrote:
As for the theoretical changes coming, if they fix melee, great feel free to nerf the necessary gems including bf. But that's not coming in December for certain, and I'm pretty sure it won't happen ever. So you have no excuse to nerf bf.


You need to stop taking the easy way of arguing. Nobody actually cares what you're sure about, and your pessimistic moaning isn't doing you, or anyone else, any good at all. If it's OP it deserves a nerf, that's all there is to it. No matter how often you say BV must not get nerfed because melee sucks in general, it doesn't make flurry less OP than it is. Try getting your head around that anytime soon, and the upcoming nerf will be a lot less painful for you.
[quote="ScrotieMcB"]It's just, like, people's opinions, man.

But I cannot respect motherf♪♫♫♪rs calling something a simulator, when it isn't one.[/quote]

Mors edited this post first.
Wtf seriously ...
If you want to wear a shield ( do you see the relation between shields and HC by the way ? just in case ... ), your "attacks" cannot be range unless you're a wander and your single target dps end up being pretty bad.
So what do you do ?

You want to cover the whole screen => spells.

Thank you captain obvious !

Blade flurry DOES cover the whole screen, allows you to have a shield, and is an attack, that you can play physical, elemental or even chaos.


By the way do you have all of the top 50 player's in your friend list and they are all telling them your build and stuff ?
No, so stop talking as if you are part of this HC elite and you know what's going on there, you are not.
And HC isn't the only balance criteria out here, the biggest audience plays softcore anyway.

Not that it's that relevant since the whole thing has been messed up by BV + Pathfinder builds.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.

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