[2.5] CoC Vortex Elementalist *Insane dps* 2-3 shot Guardians - Shaper down! [Video Inside]

i still have some doubts about that weapon...someone else can confirm ?
Last edited by Eko13#2933 on Jan 2, 2017, 9:21:51 AM
few video for breach's league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKDaDY-dlc - Esh's Domain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0QPpi993w - Xoph's Domain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-qWuWxBkk - Tul's Domain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uG2Pi5vB9I - Uul-Netol's Domain
Chayula in progress..

Very fun build! xD

p/s about widowmaker don't know, i'm playing with Vagan's dagger and i feel very comfortable, if i'm killing almost all bosses for 1-2 sec then me don't need this change xD
Last edited by Umbrel#3551 on Jan 3, 2017, 8:47:39 AM
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Umbrel wrote:
few video for breach's league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKDaDY-dlc - Esh's Domain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0QPpi993w - Xoph's Domain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-qWuWxBkk - Tul's Domain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uG2Pi5vB9I - Uul-Netol's Domain
Chayula in progress..

Very fun build! xD

p/s about widowmaker don't know, i'm playing with Vagan's dagger and i feel very comfortable, if i'm killing almost all bosses for 1-2 sec then me don't need this change xD


I would understand if it was expensive...but this change worth 1 alchemy xD not so hard to "try" it lol
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Eko13 wrote:


I would understand if it was expensive...but this change worth 1 alchemy xD not so hard to "try" it lol

sure, you are right. Maybe i am not right, but very important for this build to all the blows fall on the target, if you don't hit by aim then won't be crit and this build is turned into just the cyclone build. Than more hits you are did and more aims struck the higher that you'll do crits. This is Cast on Crit build.
even if you will be have a lot of critical chance you have to realize it, you need to hit as possible often as you can.
Widowmaker Boot Blade doesn't contain "hits can't be evaded"

p/s i hope you understand me, sry for my english.
Last edited by Umbrel#3551 on Jan 3, 2017, 4:52:04 PM
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Eko13 wrote:
i still have some doubts about that weapon...someone else can confirm ?
Widowmaker is rubbish. VS a proper multicraft dagger like on me with 6 charges:
- you will have around 67% crit - even less than I reach with my multicraft (but you gain those hidden 100% crit vs full life - not really reliable ~10% chance - around 77% total, you still can't drop the diamond flask, cuz it is too low
- I also get -15% attack speed (in my case) -30% hits (no vagan's mod) this makes my crit triggering damage 1.5 times less effective
- global crit multi is good, but worse than crafted spell damage
- no leech
As a result, Widowmaker is ~infinite times worse than a good multicrafted for end-game.

If we talk about a more budget Vagan's like
*Hits can't be evaded
*+attack speed
*+local crit chance
you still lose ~1.5 crit trigger damage
you gain maybe 10% unreliable crit on full life
you gain ~37% crit multi (which will be less effective)

Summary:
with widowmaker the situation when you dive into a pack, cyclone/charge, and nothing happens for like 2 seconds - is 1.5 times more probable plus you have less leech. As a result you die and lose exp = lose chaos you spent to buy maps. Does not sound like saving budget to me.
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kaelsy wrote:
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Eko13 wrote:
i still have some doubts about that weapon...someone else can confirm ?
Widowmaker is rubbish. VS a proper multicraft dagger like on me with 6 charges:
- you will have around 67% crit - even less than I reach with my multicraft (but you gain those hidden 100% crit vs full life - not really reliable ~10% chance - around 77% total, you still can't drop the diamond flask, cuz it is too low
- I also get -15% attack speed (in my case) -30% hits (no vagan's mod) this makes my crit triggering damage 1.5 times less effective
- global crit multi is good, but worse than crafted spell damage
- no leech
As a result, Widowmaker is ~infinite times worse than a good multicrafted for end-game.

If we talk about a more budget Vagan's like
*Hits can't be evaded
*+attack speed
*+local crit chance
you still lose ~1.5 crit trigger damage
you gain maybe 10% unreliable crit on full life
you gain ~37% crit multi (which will be less effective)

Summary:
with widowmaker the situation when you dive into a pack, cyclone/charge, and nothing happens for like 2 seconds - is 1.5 times more probable plus you have less leech. As a result you die and lose exp = lose chaos you spent to buy maps. Does not sound like saving budget to me.


Thanks for the explanation, if you have time can you check my dagger and tell me what should i do ? keep or buy something else? (don't have much currency, focusing on 6L my 198% Shav Atm)

ps : your characters are hidden
Last edited by Eko13#2933 on Jan 4, 2017, 8:23:20 AM
I read through all of your posts and looked at your characters. Mind if I ask how you would improve my build? I'm following everything word for word since I don't really know too much about the game besides some mechanics. I think I need to upgrade my entire gearset besides my shavs.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/bravoman368/characters
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Eko13 wrote:
Thanks for the explanation, if you have time can you check my dagger and tell me what should i do ? keep or buy something else? (don't have much currency, focusing on 6L my 198% Shav Atm)

ps : your characters are hidden

Your dagger is absolutely ok. I would upgrade to a better one only after a 6L and reaching ~8k ES. Chars should be visible now.
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bravoman368 wrote:
I read through all of your posts and looked at your characters. Mind if I ask how you would improve my build? I'm following everything word for word since I don't really know too much about the game besides some mechanics. I think I need to upgrade my entire gearset besides my shavs.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/bravoman368/characters
The worst part is +fire damage on the dagger - you trigger fire resistance by your EE. Either remove EE or swap your dagger for a more suitable.
You gloves a kinda low ES, lot of space to upgrade.
And get at least 60% spell damage on your shield.
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kaelsy wrote:
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Eko13 wrote:
Thanks for the explanation, if you have time can you check my dagger and tell me what should i do ? keep or buy something else? (don't have much currency, focusing on 6L my 198% Shav Atm)

ps : your characters are hidden

Your dagger is absolutely ok. I would upgrade to a better one only after a 6L and reaching ~8k ES. Chars should be visible now.


Thanks, though my dagger was a top priority to change since she doesn't have the mod...i'll focus on 8K es then.

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