[2.4] low life Mjolner supertank done right by Rico

What about something like this:

1) Alphas Howl: 2l + 2l: PoF-PoL and Discipline-Empower
2) Shavs: 6l or 5l: Wrath-Haste-Grace-PoI-Enlighten (lvl 3 is enough), AA
3) Boots or gloves: 4l: Blasphemy-Ew-Enchance-Enlighten (lvl 2 is enough) or Blasphemy-Ew CWDT-IC
4) boots or gloves: 4l: Molten strike setup
5) shield: 3l: LS setup

Still 100 life left with lvl 3 and lvl 2 enlighten and 5l Shavs. However Discipline will be lvl 24 or 26 depending on Discipline and empower lvls. And that together with 162% aura effectiveness gives from +89 to +131 ES before further ES scaling. With lvl 21 Disc and lvl 4 emp thats almost half of regular 300 ES helmet.

Now having freeze immunity with Alphas Auxium is not needed. We can use decent ES belt or +1 endu corrupted ES belt to save a point from the tree and throw it into ES pool.

Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB#5871 on Oct 5, 2016, 11:04:26 AM
double post
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB#5871 on Oct 5, 2016, 11:00:45 AM
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Btw @Alturas, i put on shield CWDT + IC + VAAL DISCIPLINE and for mapping i remove GMP and put LS, for bosses i remove LS and put GMP.

That's a great idea Redix, that's what you were mentioning earlier in game I was misinterpreting. I almost like that better than the 3 molten strike on alpha's then getting rid of GMP for good because we lose the 10% attack speed on 20 quality GMP. It takes an extra second before each boss but I think thats worth it. I'll make that change this evening and try it out.

@RicoKGB
Yeah that version would certainly make up for the loss in ES when combined with a higher ES belt instead of auxium. So with this change compared to your original build you'd have freeze immunity, a stronger EW curse, additional aura - haste, and have comparable ES. You lose that empowered PoI also. If you do the LS/GMP swap that rico mentioned, only using GMP in place of LS for bosses then you still get your 3l CWDT or utility set up (or get a 3 molten strike enchant alphas). I think this is definitely worth trying out.

Compared with my set up you would lose dual curse (enfeeble or conductivity as needed) and lvl 23 PoI, but gain a lot of es and save 3 points on the tree from having to grab the +1 curse node. Your alpha set up may be the best, basically comes down to is enfeeble worth the ES loss and 3 points in the tree. Those three points could get the witch ES nodes or celestial judgement etc. Nice one I may try this out.

edit - Not to mention your alpha version is now easier to gear because of using a rare belt and only requires lower level enlightens. Might be the easiest for new people to the build to get into.
Last edited by Alturas#2816 on Oct 5, 2016, 1:04:57 PM
New variant, get Discipline lv23 and don´t lose PoI lv21
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You need enhancement "14% Reduced Purity of Fire/lig/ice mana reservation" (Merci Lab!)

Alpha´s set-up: PoI + PoF + PoL + Discipline lv21

Shavs set-up 5L: (Haste + Grace + AA + Wrath + Enlighten lv4)

Gloves: BP + EW + Enfeeble + Enlighten lv4

66 life left, and Dual Curse!! so with 6.4kES it´s like 8.4K ES doing maps and about 7.2K ES vs Bosses


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Last edited by redix27#0903 on Oct 5, 2016, 1:26:56 PM
Yeah that one would work as well and only requires a 5l shavs. It does require 2 level 4 enlightens though adding 30ex when compared to the cost of ricos. I definitely want to try to keep my dual curse with enfeeble if possible. Guess I'm going to be running a lot of labs soon either way.

Also if you did happen to get a + molten strike projectiles on alphas you could start switching in culling strike like you were doing before instead of GMP and still have the 10% attack speed from culling quality.
Double curse setup with EW + Enfeeble via Blasphemy is a bit safer than empowered Disc setup. However as you allready said - it is way more expensive.

Now Im using also Alphas Howl with the setup I've posted above however I need to upgrade some of my gear (shield, belt). It should be possible to reach 7k ES at lvl 94 with my setup.

While anyone with acces to 2x Lvl 4 Enl should use redix27's setup. As it is slightly better. And in terms of min/max it is simply better.
Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155
3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608
3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362
Last edited by RicoKGB#5871 on Oct 5, 2016, 1:56:34 PM
lvl 4 enlighten is too expensive, not to mention 2 of them.

So without them, Rico's original build is still the one to go to?

thx
Looking ahead, that community designed ziggyd belt that grants onslaught when you have fortify could be useful... a permanent 20% attack, cast, and move speed? Drop haste for something else?
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So without them, Rico's original build is still the one to go to?


I would say Rico's alphas version posted recently is the best version without enlighten lvl 4. I think he is still testing it out so may need to wait for him to give feedback. Here's the post.

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What about something like this:

1) Alphas Howl: 2l + 2l: PoF-PoL and Discipline-Empower
2) Shavs: 6l or 5l: Wrath-Haste-Grace-PoI-Enlighten (lvl 3 is enough), AA
3) Boots or gloves: 4l: Blasphemy-Ew-Enchance-Enlighten (lvl 2 is enough) or Blasphemy-Ew CWDT-IC
4) boots or gloves: 4l: Molten strike setup
5) shield: 3l: LS setup

Still 100 life left with lvl 3 and lvl 2 enlighten and 5l Shavs. However Discipline will be lvl 24 or 26 depending on Discipline and empower lvls. And that together with 162% aura effectiveness gives from +89 to +131 ES before further ES scaling. With lvl 21 Disc and lvl 4 emp thats almost half of regular 300 ES helmet.

Now having freeze immunity with Alphas Auxium is not needed. We can use decent ES belt or +1 endu corrupted ES belt to save a point from the tree and throw it into ES pool.


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Looking ahead, that community designed ziggyd belt that grants onslaught when you have fortify could be useful... a permanent 20% attack, cast, and move speed? Drop haste for something else?


Hmm that's an interesting idea. I haven't seen a new version of the belt, does it have anything that helps us aside from permanent onslaught? Losing the ES, resists (esp chaos), and strength from the belt will be hard to make up other places.
Last edited by Alturas#2816 on Oct 5, 2016, 6:33:09 PM
I am not entirely sure on what the finished belt will be, I have not really followed the design process. Here is what it looks like currently, but I have no idea if they will be adding other stats to it as the special flavor was all that was voted on. So, 1% attack damage per 300 of lowest armour or evasion (based on attack wording, would this even help us?), onslaught while fort, and +305 armour and evasion are currently the only relevant stats.

"As a reminder, here is the current appearance of the item. There are more minor additional stats and improvements to descriptions and balance values to come!

Perseverance
Vanguard Belt (A new belt base type)
+305 to Armour and Evasion Rating
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1% increased attack damage per 300 of your lowest value between armour and evasion
15% chance to gain Fortify on Melee Stun
You have Onslaught while you have Fortify
Some blows must be evaded. Some blows must be endured. The trick is to tell them apart.
- Daresso, the Sword King"

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