[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

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Krodenhebs wrote:


i dont, my english is to bad!!!

Why is the enchant that important that u cant run discharge in voll's protector? plz check my char, is the switch to 4g1b1x that efficient? i got 0 currency atm.

whats your advice guys? farm lab till i got the enchant? or safe money and swap the voll's protector?

do i understand this right: marc lab = 20 % enchant, uber lab 30 % ?

Thx + greetings

The enchantment makes it so that your discharges are fully powered most of the time. If you don't have the enchantment you'll still be discharging a lot when cyclone-ing but the discharges will be much weaker since they were triggered with fewer charges up. This is why people are having trouble with single target damage even though they are clearing maps really well.

I personally hate trying to farm uber lab so I can't recommend it for getting a specific enchantment. Unless you are playing a build designed for lab it feels like a chore to me. I just play normally and buy whatever helmet I need after saving up, mine was 4ex for a 400 es helmet. I've rerolled my volls a twice too if you want to go the blade vortex route, I'm lazy with that so I just spammed vorici 3 green until I got 4 green. Probably not the efficient way to get 4g1b1x but it's quick.

I'd probably recommend saving up 1 ex for a bunch of chromes and trying to get 4g since that will probably be cheaper than a decent helmet with the enchantment. I did 3/4 guardians with that setup and it works well.

I would guess you could use your current setup in lower tier maps to farm currency. Are you having trouble there?
Last edited by supremePINEAPPLE on Dec 28, 2016, 12:48:51 PM
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Krodenhebs wrote:


i dont, my english is to bad!!!

Why is the enchant that important that u cant run discharge in voll's protector? plz check my char, is the switch to 4g1b1x that efficient? i got 0 currency atm.

whats your advice guys? farm lab till i got the enchant? or safe money and swap the voll's protector?

do i understand this right: marc lab = 20 % enchant, uber lab 30 % ?

Thx + greetings

The enchantment makes it so that your discharges are fully powered most of the time. If you don't have the enchantment you'll still be discharging a lot when cyclone-ing but the discharges will be much weaker since they were triggered with fewer charges up. This is why people are having trouble with single target damage even though they are clearing maps really well.

I personally hate trying to farm uber lab so I can't recommend it for getting a specific enchantment. Unless you are playing a build designed for lab it feels like a chore to me. I just play normally and buy whatever helmet I need after saving up, mine was 4ex for a 400 es helmet. I've rerolled my volls a twice too if you want to go the blade vortex route, I'm lazy with that so I just spammed vorici 3 green until I got 4 green. Probably not the efficient way to get 4g1b1x but it's quick.

I'd probably recommend saving up 1 ex for a bunch of chromes and trying to get 4g since that will probably be cheaper than a decent helmet with the enchantment. I did 3/4 guardians with that setup and it works well.

I would guess you could use your current setup in lower tier maps to farm currency. Are you having trouble there?


Ok, thought about that, but wasnt sure.

Thx for the explenations, rly!

In Atlas im on 113/126, just missing 2 T15, the 4 T16'th and some unique maps.

so im more as fine in maps till..i would say T13-14. got dmg leaks, especially on Shaped Quay boss, there is the problem for me with no helm enchant/not the right links in my voll's.

i can rly go fast through maps till t12, onehit-shieldcharging the whole map, vinktar need to be up in some spots like ele reflect or few bosses - i get in trouble without this flask.

my priorities look like this atm:

- chrome the shit out of your voll's
- try got get the helm enchant "btw". (haha)
- get the attackspeedessenceshit on your gloves
- get death's door
- get good rings

can u recommend this way?
I'd do it like this personally but I think your way works fine too. It really depends on how much you like or dislike the blade vortex link setup once you try it out. One important thing to throw in there is the death's door enchantment, it's really nice and lets you get away with not using the LL gem in your cospri's malice unless you are doing something difficult like shaper.

- chrome the shit out of your voll's
- get death's door
- get .6% life leech enchantment on death's door
- try and get the helm enchant
- get good rings
- get the attackspeedessenceshit on your gloves

I found that the attack speed gloves are much less important for assassins than the crit gloves are for tricksters. I crafted a 170es pair first try and they just weren't that impressive so I sold them instead for a nice little profit. I'll probably be getting a pair at some point eventually but I still want to get two more jewels with three crit multi mods first.
Last edited by supremePINEAPPLE on Dec 28, 2016, 8:10:52 PM
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I'd do it like this personally but I think you're way works fine too. It really depends on how much you like or dislike the blade vortex link setup once you try it out. One important thing to throw in there is the death's door enchantment, it's really nice and lets you get away with not using the LL gem in your cospri's malice unless you are doing something difficult like shaper.

- chrome the shit out of your voll's
- get death's door
- get .6% life leech enchantment on death's door
- try and get the helm enchant
- get good rings
- get the attackspeedessenceshit on your gloves

I found that the attack speed gloves are much less important for assassins than the crit gloves are for tricksters. I crafted a 170es pair first try and they just weren't that impressive so I sold them instead for a nice little profit. I'll probably be getting a pair at some point eventually but I still want to get two more jewels with three crit multi mods first.


your rly a supreme supremePINEAPPLE!

thank u a lot!!!

sounds great, especially the shaper thing. i feel like i cant recht him since im dying to t15/16 bosses. but now.. i get some homeworks and im happy to that.

u see also my problem in the missing LL, didnt know about this enchant in combination with the boots.
they are about 3 ex. not that prob. weekend inc.

im also happy about that the attackspeedeesenceshitgloves arent that important. (was alrdy afraid about switching the resis through jews/items.. urgh)

kisses!!! #nohomo
Last edited by Krodenhebs on Dec 28, 2016, 1:44:28 PM
I love this build. Although I added alittle twist of my own to it. Have a +1 curse voll's and run warlords and assassin's mark with blasphemy. I have some really nice gear so I don't need to run purities. Also picked up the 10% reserves node near vaal pact. I utterly destroy everything. T15 maps are easy, and I killed mino last night at lvl 85. Currently at 8.4k es.

Spoiler


Althought I think I may get 2 vinktars for the harder bosses.
Last edited by shamonj03 on Dec 28, 2016, 2:17:20 PM
Hey. Ty for the build it's rly good and funny. I have a question, now i'm lvl 91 (IGN: TryToDoThisAgain) and i want to level further. Now have 8.8k Es and 460% Multi. So what do you think about further tree, we can pick more Es from Scion or take "Throatseeker" for more multi, or can take Jewel for 4 points.
What's best in your opinion?
Pathfinder also has been nerfed.

I´m curious if this is HC viable :/
Last edited by dOTpiXelS on Dec 28, 2016, 2:36:52 PM
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Krodenhebs wrote:
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GRIMGeeks wrote:
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Discharge should only be in the voll's protector if you have a helmet with a 30% chance for discharge not to consume charges enchantment. Otherwise you should be running one of the following link setups.

Cyclone - Increased Acc - Increased Crit - CoC - Blade Vortex - PCoC

or

Cyclone - Increased Acc - Increased Crit - CoC - Blade Vortex - foritfy

Getting 4g1b1x is expensive but necessary if you don't have the helmet.



Now I understand, thanks.


i dont, my english is to bad!!!

Why is the enchant that important that u cant run discharge in voll's protector? plz check my char, is the switch to 4g1b1x that efficient? i got 0 currency atm.

whats your advice guys? farm lab till i got the enchant? or safe money and swap the voll's protector?

do i understand this right: marc lab = 20 % enchant, uber lab 30 % ?

Thx + greetings

You need enchant to run discharge in cospri and voll because one of those discharge will have not any charges and that means no dmg, wasted gem link in voll. With enchant 30% of the time you will have double dicharge.
Hi I'm having some problems with my build, criting with discharge and single target dps. Can someone look at my gear and help my out. Im working on geting the volls amulet atm.
Character name: Stopinting
Last edited by AsianSkillz99 on Dec 28, 2016, 5:47:54 PM
Playing as Assassin, awesome build !
But even if I'm playing standard wouldent Fortify be a better link to use with shield charge then additional acc, or why do you and other prefer additional acc ?
-Nerf

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