[2.6] THE NEW FAKENER | DISCHARGE | SUPER FAST STRANDS | Cospris Malice | 9k+ ES | STILL GREAT AOE

Its in the shield as a cwdt setup. Its a lot less reliable

Im literally being one shotted, I have no idea why. I just walked into packs and insta die. I will also cyclone and not discharge, spent 40+ exalts and it cant even do t15 bosses, what is happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EtaKaUltU&

I'm having a lot of fun with this build, but there is one significant problem.

Getting stunned.

Yes, it won't happen while I'm cycloning, but you're not gonna be cycloning 24/7.
You need to dodge shit, you need to reposition yourself or w/e.

I'm thinking that it might not be a bad idea to pick up some stun avoidance.



35% from Leo enchantment on helm.
Possible to spend 6 points to move south of Vaal Pact, for another 36%. Worth it?


Or replace one of the rings with Valyrium? Could it be possible to solve the mana issue some other way? Possibly get some more nodes for reduced mana reserved? We have a few quite close. (12% just below vaal pact)


Skyforth? Yes, expensive, but it should help a little.



Any ideas on the matter? Stun is pretty much the only problem with this build, aside from the low armour/evasion.

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KBdark wrote:

Its in the shield as a cwdt setup. Its a lot less reliable

Well you literally said cwdt setup but then I assume you mean blasphemy? the trick with cwdt warlords mark is it actually kind of acts just like a blasphemy, if you don't take damage you don't need it, and when you take damage it's allways casted on what you need it to be casted on.

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GGZII wrote:

Im literally being one shotted, I have no idea why. I just walked into packs and insta die. I will also cyclone and not discharge, spent 40+ exalts and it cant even do t15 bosses, what is happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EtaKaUltU&

Crit map double ele damage vuln bad mob type and looks like you got stunned. You need to cyclone earlier can't just shieldcharge into the pack and just stand there. To me it looked like you had a split second to press cyclone and leech to full life.

In high tiers we go from pack to pack shield charging -> cycloning. -> shield charging -> cycloning.

It's also incredibly important to have your cursor close to your character when you initiate the cyclone.

If you happen to have high ping and aren't able to play reactively i'd invest in alot more defense and 80% stun boots.

oh and quality your flasks.

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Fiver wrote:

I'm having a lot of fun with this build, but there is one significant problem.

Getting stunned.

Yes, it won't happen while I'm cycloning, but you're not gonna be cycloning 24/7.
You need to dodge shit, you need to reposition yourself or w/e.

I'm thinking that it might not be a bad idea to pick up some stun avoidance.



35% from Leo enchantment on helm.
Possible to spend 6 points to move south of Vaal Pact, for another 36%. Worth it?


Or replace one of the rings with Valyrium? Could it be possible to solve the mana issue some other way?


Skyforth? Yes, expensive, but it should help a little.



Any ideas on the matter? Stun is pretty much the only problem with this build, aside from the low armour/evasion.

80% stun boot enchant solves this, which I mentioned somewhere was optional but I went greedy for 16% atk speed.

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maddognils wrote:

80% stun boot enchant solves this, which I mentioned somewhere was optional but I went greedy for 16% atk speed.

Oh, right. Totally missed that.

Another question. Crit multiplier is important, yet we have 54% just 4 points away. Anything we could sacrifice for those?


Also, by rerouting the tree a little, we could get the 3 crit nodes just below "Nullification".
We can get right next to the nodes without even losing any points in the tree. Actually we gain

We trade:
20 Int
8% max life
10% max energy shield

for:
10% evasion
5% energy shield
5% movespeed
20% increased physical
20% increased chaos
30 dexterity
10 Int

(Or just 20 dex 10 int and save a passive point)

Then there would be the conundrum on what to replace for 40% crit, 32% accuracy and 20 dex..


Thoughts?

I have the 80% stun boots and the leech boots, maybe with the life leach gem I dont need the leach boots and should stick with the stun boots they seem better.

I really am enjoying the build and I have done multiple T15's, it's expensive and probably not the best build I have ever done (But that was +2 Reach of the council, poision barrage, which is just overpowered) so it can't compete. But its fun.

Had a few issues where sometimes it takes 1 second to discharge and that can get me killed, but Im basically crit capped so not sure whats happening there but its super fun and I bought the MTX.

Haven't tried shaper or uber as I'm not sure 8k es is enough but maybe I could get more. I have improved my jewels now, if you have any advice for other gear / flasks that would be great.

My gear is below and jewels are on char. Thanks

This is my experience with the build. No idea what I am doing wrong, any tips appreciated because Im tempted to vendor it all, it cant do any high end content and I just insta die and do zero damage with like 60 exalts of gear

I must be doing something wrong as everyone is enjoying the build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o2hwaHGu7I&

i started dying a lot when i started mapping, since then i picked up discipline and upgraded my ES gear as much as i could afford. But i am still unsure about the immortal call setup.

i guess the lvl 1 setup is because of the amulet ? What about a defensive setup without amulet? Or is lvl CODT because of discharge?

what would be a optimal defensive immortal call setup without the amulet, still lvl 1?

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Fiver wrote:

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maddognils wrote:

80% stun boot enchant solves this, which I mentioned somewhere was optional but I went greedy for 16% atk speed.

Oh, right. Totally missed that.

Another question. Crit multiplier is important, yet we have 54% just 4 points away. Anything we could sacrifice for those?


Also, by rerouting the tree a little, we could get the 3 crit nodes just below "Nullification".
We can get right next to the nodes without even losing any points in the tree. Actually we gain

We trade:
20 Int
8% max life
10% max energy shield

for:
10% evasion
5% energy shield
5% movespeed
20% increased physical
20% increased chaos
30 dexterity
10 Int

(Or just 20 dex 10 int and save a passive point)

Then there would be the conundrum on what to replace for 40% crit, 32% accuracy and 20 dex..


Thoughts?

I've tried fitting in throatseeker several times, 1 jewel socket outshines it so can't drop anything there. The only thing you can drop is ES for it, because everything else is absolutely necessary we can't drop any Dex on the tree because of the insane dex requirement on malice, so absoultely if you want you can drop defense for dmg. No problem.

And I assume you're on about depth perception? I've tried fitting that in aswell, I realize we can get next to it by dropping the connecting nodes entering scion area, but the only thing you can drop for the cluster itself is ES.

Let me know if i'm missing anything else. Feel free to post a tree with your suggested changes.

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GGZII wrote:

I have the 80% stun boots and the leech boots, maybe with the life leach gem I dont need the leach boots and should stick with the stun boots they seem better.

I really am enjoying the build and I have done multiple T15's, it's expensive and probably not the best build I have ever done (But that was +2 Reach of the council, poision barrage, which is just overpowered) so it can't compete. But its fun.

Had a few issues where sometimes it takes 1 second to discharge and that can get me killed, but Im basically crit capped so not sure whats happening there but its super fun and I bought the MTX.

Haven't tried shaper or uber as I'm not sure 8k es is enough but maybe I could get more. I have improved my jewels now, if you have any advice for other gear / flasks that would be great.

My gear is below and jewels are on char. Thanks

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Only thing that is left is to multimod your rings. And about the phoenix fight, it's extremely difficult for cyclone builds, its the only guardian I ever had a problem with, eventually when I learned to play extremely cautious and play very sparingly with my flasks I managed to kill him deathless, but it took tons of practice and I'm still not able to do it on extremely hard mods.