[outdated] King of the Forest (Crit version)

I suppose the "no more double dipping" in 3.0 means that this build is not going to be viable anymore, correct?
Finally killed shaper... if anyone wondering, TS is far better than barrage imo..

much bigger dmg:
6000+TS chaos dmg, you hitting with 3 projectiles always - WITHOUT dying sun.. better to use onslaught flask

vs

3000+Barrage chaos dmg, with ~5 projectiles hitting when you stay close to boss

My setup for shaper:
Spoiler


Standard Tree
Also tried
it gives ~500 chaos dmg bonus to TS and bonus bow dmg when close to enemy, but i didnt get good results with it..needs more testing :P
Maybe Sin's Rebirth would be better than Onslaught flask, also wondering if Barrage/tornado DMG in helm would double dip???

For maping using dying sun instead of sulphur flask, and bisco amulet
Last edited by fifus92#6120 on May 11, 2017, 6:16:40 PM
Soo lately ive been experimenting with things and put some time into game after a while. League is coming to an end and i have some points to this amazing build ive had so much fun with.

1st.) TS setup > LA+barrage. Ive spent most of the time using LA with barrage but then i got +2 TS enchant on my devoto in my first uberlab (superlucky ikr) and i decided to give it a shot. Holy moly improvement in both map clear and single target so significant. Yes you "cant really compare" power of enchanted TS with unenchanted barrage, so ive bought myself +2 barrage helmet aswell just to try it out and nope, TS is just better overal. Also huge advantage is, with TS setup you just need 1 6link (for me its my QotF) to be 100% effective not two.

2nd.) Deaths opus vs Legacy RotC... Sooo some time back in the league i was superlucky bastard and droped legacy RotC (yep i basically selffound 2 most expensive items from this build, i know i am extremely lucky bastard this league) so i went on with it and just smashed my way through maps with my fancy RotC. Yesterday i stumbled onto prophecy to upgrade deaths harp into opus i was like hey.. thats alternative bow for my build, lets do it and try out opus along the way how hes compared to rotc. So i did and damn.. Felt kinda surprising that in terms of performance this 20C or something like that bow can not just compete but maybe even beat 25 ex legacy fancy RotC -.- Only thing RotC is doing WAY better is map clearing - obviouly 2 more arrows are kicking in - but that can be easily fixed with dying sun. Single target feels much better aswell. Man i will probably sell my fancy RotC :(

3rd.) overall feel of the build is amazing, the best perk of this is that ridiculous movespee provided by QotF. Ive tried couple of different builds over the season but i was just so dissapointed by how slow they are and how they are dependent on quicksilver flask and droped them out. That speed is literally addictive and i ll have hard time in new league without it :(

Now i need some tips on what to invest in next, before league ends i wanna pump up my gear into perfection and wanna finish all the content i havent done yet (done 3/4 guardians, not done uber atziri and shaper) so heres my gear:
Spoiler


What should be my next step in upgrading? I am siting on 5,8k hp (some life nodes ahead as well as 2 more jewels to be added) and 38k dps fully buffed and ready to go.
My guild topic (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2628169)
My boss/crafting service (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2806421)
Last edited by xzwjm10100#4680 on May 12, 2017, 1:54:26 AM
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xzwjm10100 wrote:
Soo lately ive been experimenting with things and put some time into game after a while. League is coming to an end and i have some points to this amazing build ive had so much fun with.

1st.) TS setup > LA+barrage. Ive spent most of the time using LA with barrage but then i got +2 TS enchant on my devoto in my first uberlab (superlucky ikr) and i decided to give it a shot. Holy moly improvement in both map clear and single target so significant. Yes you "cant really compare" power of enchanted TS with unenchanted barrage, so ive bought myself +2 barrage helmet aswell just to try it out and nope, TS is just better overal. Also huge advantage is, with TS setup you just need 1 6link (for me its my QotF) to be 100% effective not two.

2nd.) Deaths opus vs Legacy RotC... Sooo some time back in the league i was superlucky bastard and droped legacy RotC (yep i basically selffound 2 most expensive items from this build, i know i am extremely lucky bastard this league) so i went on with it and just smashed my way through maps with my fancy RotC. Yesterday i stumbled onto prophecy to upgrade deaths harp into opus i was like hey.. thats alternative bow for my build, lets do it and try out opus along the way how hes compared to rotc. So i did and damn.. Felt kinda surprising that in terms of performance this 20C or something like that bow can not just compete but maybe even beat 25 ex legacy fancy RotC -.- Only thing RotC is doing WAY better is map clearing - obviouly 2 more arrows are kicking in - but that can be easily fixed with dying sun. Single target feels much better aswell. Man i will probably sell my fancy RotC :(

3rd.) overall feel of the build is amazing, the best perk of this is that ridiculous movespee provided by QotF. Ive tried couple of different builds over the season but i was just so dissapointed by how slow they are and how they are dependent on quicksilver flask and droped them out. That speed is literally addictive and i ll have hard time in new league without it :(

Now i need some tips on what to invest in next, before league ends i wanna pump up my gear into perfection and wanna finish all the content i havent done yet (done 3/4 guardians, not done uber atziri and shaper) so heres my gear:
Spoiler


What should be my next step in upgrading? I am siting on 5,8k hp (some life nodes ahead as well as 2 more jewels to be added) and 38k dps fully buffed and ready to go.



TS is really good at single target? How does it work? Its better even without the enchant and with extra arrows?
Havent really tried unenchanted version of TS :D i can tho just for science when ill get to play :)

Another big upside of TS setup is clearing extras compared to LA+barrage setup. In some fights (guardians, uber izaro with portals up etc) there are a lot of extras around just derping around arena. With LA+barrage setup you have to actually turn around and take care of extras with LA then continue smashing the boss. With TS you can just keep focusing boss while all extras die superfast as collateral damage :) Its small upside, but hey if we are trying to reach maximum efficiency we need to take every upside :P

Btw i just realized something. They way that TS helmet enchant works, it gets more effective with every added projectile (because every another projectile adds 2 more secondary projectiles), so that enchant gets the most out of reach and dying sun (given everyone have the mandatory +1 drillneck) so i guess switchning to TS with the enchant isnt really worthit unless you have either Reach or dying sun. Without dying sun active clearing with opus and TS seems bit underwhelming compared to LA. Then again ive never tried LA with opus, just with reach :/
My guild topic (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2628169)
My boss/crafting service (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2806421)
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NoahRafiki wrote:
I suppose the "no more double dipping" in 3.0 means that this build is not going to be viable anymore, correct?


I think so, but I'd like an answer from someone more knowledgeable, too.
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xzwjm10100 wrote:


What should be my next step in upgrading? I am siting on 5,8k hp (some life nodes ahead as well as 2 more jewels to be added) and 38k dps fully buffed and ready to go.


I prefer cherubim +quicksilver insead of QOF (70% chaos dmg + comparable speed with flask).. wither totem setup is a must against shaper to kill him fast.. uber atziri seems to be super fast and one shoting us (6200hp ..) , but lesser hp pool than shaper so there QOL+quicksilver can do wonders when dodging some of attacks.

With cherrubim and wither totem I kill phoenix in 10sec max
Okay going to try cherrubim, have around 15 ex to spare and not planing on starting any new build anyways so ill tinker around a bit :) Btw can you link your jewels here? Just curious i think i have pretty good jewels but might see some improvement :P
My guild topic (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2628169)
My boss/crafting service (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2806421)
Thanks for ur build,its great
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xzwjm10100 wrote:
Okay going to try cherrubim, have around 15 ex to spare and not planing on starting any new build anyways so ill tinker around a bit :) Btw can you link your jewels here? Just curious i think i have pretty good jewels but might see some improvement :P


Every jewel is min 6%life + %projectile dmg / %increased dmg . 2 of them also have %bow speed, cause I didnt get speed from bandits(life,passive,passive), also I have 3 frenzy charges only.
But actually if you dont have 6,5k life you cant make mistake fighting with uber bosses, so godly life on gear (hard if you want to have %chaos dmg and +chaos dmg jewelry), or high lvl..

I would recommend lvl95, good life on gear, 6%life on every jewel - then with 6,5k hp you can get hit occasionaly
Last edited by fifus92#6120 on May 16, 2017, 7:06:11 AM

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