R.I.P. [2.6] Explosive Arrow - Elementalist Build Guide (multi class + version, in depth theory)
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I tried this built out...
Got very good gear. Even Headhunter, 21/20 Gems... everything... I cant do any Maps past t12... in T13/14 maps every single Rare Monster needs more time to kill than Bosses on any of my other builts. The built does NO dmg at all and its not tanky either. I played 3 different other builts in Legacy. Chaosfirestorm was decent, Howa was totally OP ofc, Animate Weapon was good too... and now the EA built... I got +1 Curse Amu, 2 6L Bows, Kaoms, even positive Chaos Resist.... I die instantly compared to my 10-15k ES builts and do literally NO damage at all in higher Tier maps... I really have no Idea how this built is supposed to do high Tier Maps or even real endgame content like Guardians, Uber or Shaper. If you wanna do damage >>>> This is not for you If you wanna be tanky >>>> This is not for you If you wanna do dried Lake to Midtier maps with some MF geared >>> This might be decent but there are better builts for that out there. Its a really really weak built and im really mad at how damn weak it is!!! |
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" Of course you do no damage if you don't play the build properly. I have said it 100x times to make sure to not have flat fire damage sources on the gear. You use some good gear, but you don't use Flask of the wise oak, Sulpur flask,... Where is your Ngamahu tiki or Devotos? How about Winds of change and opal rings? Before making accusations of the build being bad, first make sure you are doing things as you are supposed to. Haven't you seen players kill pretty much all content in the game with this build, well I have. Hint: Read about Elemental equilibrium. Greengroove's Loot Filter Scripts: poeurl.com/OMs Last edited by Greengroove on Apr 11, 2017, 6:20:17 AM
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" What you currently see in my profile is my mf gear I switched to for low tier map leveling.... I have a Ngamahu tiki with +1 curse... I wont ever play with Wise Oak flask, just because its insanely annoying to not max out one resist... I have to find stuff with exactly the Fireres, so I stay just below the Cap. Its hard enough finding gear that fits my needs already. The Meta is very CI heavey so people leave the not ES gear lying on the ground and the marked doesnt give as many choices for life based builts. The only piece of gear with flat Firedmg is the Amulet and that is how I said only for low lvl map leveling and MF.... For trying out t13/14 I didnt use that Amu ofcourse. If you told me I could like quadrupel my dmg with some stuff I would give it a chance but only the 40% from sulphur is not quite enough to get to a lot of dmg. Zero times 1.4 still is Zero. |
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" I don't think you understand how the flask works. The resists looked at when using the flasks are the uncapped total fire rez. That can be as high as you want. Note the 2 values of resistance the first one is capped and the second one is uncapped. If max rez is 75% uncapped rez can be much higher than that. There is no limit. You didn't even pick last ascendancy node. And yeah there's a lot you can do. I already told you a few things. There's also Grand spectrum, Hrimnor's resolve, Vaal lightning trap. Another big one is your links are actually not that good and you are not using Empower. I'd rather just use Doriani's belt cause its just a great belt. If we consider all these things (all this double dips), then yeah you can probably double the damage if not more. But if you don't like the play stile it's probably best if you just move on. If you like it tho there's a LOT that you can do. Greengroove's Loot Filter Scripts: poeurl.com/OMs Last edited by Greengroove on Apr 11, 2017, 9:00:23 AM
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Going to try out your build tomorrow. :)
I will use Iron Reflexes + Grace + Determination inside 2 essence worms because I found a nice "Formless Inferno" with EA enchant and as I saw how crazy the scaling becomes..
Spoiler
47k armour without a shield :D
And I skipped EO since I hate keeping things like that up. PoB Import Code: https://pastebin.com/fBisEPpy I'd appreciate your feedback if you want to have a look at it. ;) (Do I still need ACC if I don't use EO?) Perception is reality. Last edited by widardd on Apr 11, 2017, 6:18:06 PM
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" Well the thing is that Armour will not protect you against elemental damage and spells. Now this is a ranged build. You can kill stuff off screen. Cause of this, armour is kinda useless. We can also use blink arrow to get out of trouble fast. That's why I feel life and life regen is all we really need. And sure you'll have armour, but you loose a lot of life, damage (up to 110%) and potentially resists on the ring slots. The helm might be interesting but will you get enough dex on other gear? I would suggest to keep EO. With the super fast attack speed it's really, really easy to keep it up all the time. You only need like 10% chance to crit. for it to be pretty reliable. I feel that diamond skin (passive) is not the best thing. I mean sure the stats are really high, but It's always better if you can get the resists on gear instead. But ok... I think that, together with Soul of Steel would probably be the last thing to take. A nice thing is that The helm will synergise with Paragon of calamity and thus give you damage! --- Just a thought... Imagine if you would run with Crimson Grand spectrum jewels. :D Anyways... I'd suggest to do this as a test on a standard character before you commit to leveling and all that. Worse case scenario you can always respec. So not a big deal. If you end up leveling in Legacy check the leveling guide in the thread. Btw You used 115 passives on your tree. Note that that is very high level and it will take you a while to reach that. Overall I have a feeling that this is not the best idea, but can be an experiment. Maybe this would make a super safe lab farmer. But outside the Izaro fight I see few applications where armour can really make a difference. Greengroove's Loot Filter Scripts: poeurl.com/OMs
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" Yes, I know the downsides of armour not being helpful versus scary elemental damage but with Breach+Beyond Red mapping physical damage is actually quite scary now IMHO and there's no way to go especially when playing in a party and things don't die immediately. When it comes to Life on armour builds I usually stop at 8k (this build would have 8350). I don't really see a point in having a huge pool I am unable to refill. :/ If I compare my build to your Nina_Bang, apart from Mastermind of Discord and EO there's only a difference of 10% damage. Probably because I will use a +3 bow? DEX seems to be alright with 37 on my amulet which gets me to 161 DEX and resists are red map ele weakness safe already. Grand Spectrum jewels seem to start being worth it here for me at around 7 jewels.. I will think about that once I am in my 90s red mapping and still having fun, it's quite an investment. ;) Regarding Soul of Steel and Diamond Skin, I just got taken away somehow while theorycrafting and was curios if I could reach 50k. I can. It's probably overkill yeah. ;) Thanks! Perception is reality. Last edited by widardd on Apr 12, 2017, 1:45:08 AM
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" I would generally not recommend using +3 bow, but since you are focusing on armour that may be ok. However note that with the +3 bow Blink arrow will be much slower as it would be with Quill rain! Sometimes avoiding damage faster is the difference between life or death. Don't do Spectrum build with less than 10 jewels! However that is not necessary. I was just trying to point out that you can get insane amount of armour with maybe 2 Crimson jewels. Diamond skin is ok. Instead of making your build ele weakness cap with rares you could just do it with the Wise oak flask. I feel that would probably be best. Overall I think that you'll be fine. I would very much love to hear from you when you actually put it together, to see how it performs. Just promise me you will try out EO. If you then don't like it you can drop it. But make sure you test it properly. GL Greengroove's Loot Filter Scripts: poeurl.com/OMs Last edited by Greengroove on Apr 12, 2017, 7:35:55 AM
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" Soooo level 81 right now, all that is left is more life and it turns out I really like the playstyle so I bought a 21 EA and an Empower LvL 4. :) Some observations so far: Silverbough's 1.54 APS felt terrible without investment I decided to grab Berserking and run Blood Rage on CWDT (should be mitigated nicely by my high armour) and use Lightning Golem (18% ASPD) instead of Stone Golem. That made my jump from 2 APS to 3 APS and it feels amazing now. I wanted to follow your advice and try out EO so I observed how often I crit without investment into ACC or Crit. Needless to say that that rarely ever happened so I went for a little trick instead. CWDT 1 + Increased Critical Strikes 20 + Ice Spear 1. So all it takes now is receive 532 damage every 8 seconds which is pretty much guaranteed in yellow maps already. I instantly grabbed EO and my damage went through the roof! :) I will not get Diamond Skin anymore, I am already at 47k armour and there's more to come when I pick Marauder's life nodes later on. Perception is reality.
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" Souds great. Please note that bis is a 1.5 as Thicket or Grove bow with essence craft. Greengroove's Loot Filter Scripts: poeurl.com/OMs
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