[2.4] CI/LL Blade Vortex Pathfinder

What's the current stance on Master Herbalist vs Master Alchemist?
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Galega7 wrote:
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ssMETALURGss wrote:

you need to sacrifice ES to boost your deeps.
I have 65k with just auras and conc effect , with 5 power charges and flasks (which is up 100% of the time) I have 150k. No vaal haste, HH buffs etc.
But I lose a lot of ES from gloves , belt and maybe somewhere else. My shield is garbage also , the last and only piece for me to upgrade left.
My gear example , so you can compare :
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Thanks for the tips, I'm really worried about the loss of the ES. I'm looking for the best options of gems to compensate for the lack of Skyforth.

You chose to Master Alchemist / Natures Boon or Master Herbalist / Veteran Bowyer?

I wasn't using any powercharge setup back when I don't have skyforth since i'm lazy to cast additional BV or Orb of Storm with PCoC and still killing shaper, uber with ease :) But this 2 are the best (and only ,imo) reliable solutions I suppose if you're up to it.

I'm using Veteran Bowyer + Master Herbalist , poison and + 30 chaos res with flasks is absolutely amazing , bowyer's penetration is decent also.

I see no reason( for me personally) to pick nature's boon since my flask are always up even without chalice and I don't need status immunity from master alchemist, since I need only antifreeze flask (which is rolled on diamond) because i'm using rumi's + quicksilver instead of vinktar+ chalice for every encounter including shaper , guardians , uber etc.

If u're using Vinktar and not wearing magnate belt or having troubles keeping your flasks up - you can consider swapping to nature's boon for additional flask sustain. It's up to your needs
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ssMETALURGss wrote:
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Galega7 wrote:
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ssMETALURGss wrote:

you need to sacrifice ES to boost your deeps.
I have 65k with just auras and conc effect , with 5 power charges and flasks (which is up 100% of the time) I have 150k. No vaal haste, HH buffs etc.
But I lose a lot of ES from gloves , belt and maybe somewhere else. My shield is garbage also , the last and only piece for me to upgrade left.
My gear example , so you can compare :
Spoiler


Thanks for the tips, I'm really worried about the loss of the ES. I'm looking for the best options of gems to compensate for the lack of Skyforth.

You chose to Master Alchemist / Natures Boon or Master Herbalist / Veteran Bowyer?

I wasn't using any powercharge setup back when I don't have skyforth since i'm lazy to cast additional BV or Orb of Storm with PCoC and still killing shaper, uber with ease :) But this 2 are the best (and only ,imo) reliable solutions I suppose if you're up to it.

I'm using Veteran Bowyer + Master Herbalist , poison and + 30 chaos res with flasks is absolutely amazing , bowyer's penetration is decent also.

I see no reason( for me personally) to pick nature's boon since my flask are always up even without chalice and I don't need status immunity from master alchemist, since I need only antifreeze flask (which is rolled on diamond) because i'm using rumi's + quicksilver instead of vinktar+ chalice for every encounter including shaper , guardians , uber etc.

If u're using Vinktar and not wearing magnate belt or having troubles keeping your flasks up - you can consider swapping to nature's boon for additional flask sustain. It's up to your needs


I wonder how you have 100% flask uptime. I'm using Chalice and I still don't always have 100% flask uptime vs guardians/fight where I have to dodge a bit.
Really confused about where you're getting all your strength from.
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evenson wrote:
Really confused about where you're getting all your strength from.


Magnate/30 STR node/Efficient Training/depending on your gear a amulet with STR and so on. There are a ton of options.
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Purexec wrote:
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evenson wrote:
Really confused about where you're getting all your strength from.


Magnate/30 STR node/Efficient Training/depending on your gear a amulet with STR and so on. There are a ton of options.


Yeah I got my build up and running now thanks for the reply. Just got a 40+ str ring. Fairly happy with the switch from life to low life, just not sure how to build power charges without skyforth. Might just have to do without. Any recommendations on my gear? Pretty broke after the 6L Shavs today.

gear


Edit ** Just did phoenix for the first time, Can't keep up charges at all. Had to portal 3 times... Need halp. Haha.
Last edited by evenson#2428 on Oct 16, 2016, 3:12:56 AM
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evenson wrote:
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Purexec wrote:
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evenson wrote:
Really confused about where you're getting all your strength from.


Magnate/30 STR node/Efficient Training/depending on your gear a amulet with STR and so on. There are a ton of options.


Yeah I got my build up and running now thanks for the reply. Just got a 40+ str ring. Fairly happy with the switch from life to low life, just not sure how to build power charges without skyforth. Might just have to do without. Any recommendations on my gear? Pretty broke after the 6L Shavs today.

gear


Edit ** Just did phoenix for the first time, Can't keep up charges at all. Had to portal 3 times... Need halp. Haha.



Have you tried using a belt with the magical mod "reduced flask charges used" ? even better if you can craft flask duration on it, or use a magnate, whatever fits you. Cheers
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Th3LoRD wrote:

I wonder how you have 100% flask uptime. I'm using Chalice and I still don't always have 100% flask uptime vs guardians/fight where I have to dodge a bit.

I'm at 71 % crit with pcharges , using diamond flask.
With magnate or rare flask belt
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(if you prefer) and all flask nodes near ranger I don't have any troubles keeping my flasks up.

Idk what could be your problem , maybe you're missing some flask nodes , activating flasks too early while duration of them is not ended yet or not wearing any belt with flask -related stats?That's the first things to come in my mind
Magnate/30 STR node/Efficient Training/depending on your gear a amulet with STR and so on. There are a ton of options. [/quote]

Yeah I got my build up and running now thanks for the reply. Just got a 40+ str ring. Fairly happy with the switch from life to low life, just not sure how to build power charges without skyforth. Might just have to do without. Any recommendations on my gear? Pretty broke after the 6L Shavs today.

gear


Edit ** Just did phoenix for the first time, Can't keep up charges at all. Had to portal 3 times... Need halp. Haha.[/quote]


Have you tried using a belt with the magical mod "reduced flask charges used" ? even better if you can craft flask duration on it, or use a magnate, whatever fits you. Cheers[/quote]

Thanks I'll try the magnate. I think I need to get power charges some how for crit chance.

** Edit ** Tried magnate, worked well. Still need power charges though. Skyforth chance please...
Last edited by evenson#2428 on Oct 16, 2016, 7:21:58 AM
hi guys, need some help to figure what i should aim next,
im currently level 93, farming t11-t15, yet to try guardians / shaper,
recently changed to dual void, wat ur opinon about it?, didnt rip since 91, ES standing on 9.2k

equipment:



what should i aim next?, save currency for LL?(shavs 6L), save currency for skyforth?,

is there any specific item that i should switch with no big investment?,

ATM my 6L setup is included with PCOC - its faster for me without the 2nd BV setup, didnt find any other way to generate power charges (tried pretty much everything ;_( ).

thanks in advance,

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