Inevitable Judgement 'fix' is poorly made

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TheLastZica wrote:

I roll my eyes every time I see a thread like this trying to bandaid some comparatively trivial aspect of PvP while ignoring the big 2 points:

1. PvP is dead. The lead designer has said so. GGG isn't going to "waste" any significant time on "fixing" it, so kneejerk tossoffs are all you can expect, if that. You should be happy they haven't removed dueling and the arena entirely! It would not come as a surprise to me at all if they do one of these versions... and treat it as a trivial removal at that, because it would be. The % of PoE players that actually PvP at all is already insignificant! Just look at how ignored and relatively empty this entire subforum is.

2. There are lots of much more important things if GGG were to suddenly start caring about making PvP non-silly, starting with dealing with offscreening and the lack of a proper newbies bracket or something similar to get any significant portion of the playerbase interested.

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ocd_xana wrote:

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TheLastZica wrote:

I roll my eyes every time I see a thread like this trying to bandaid some comparatively trivial aspect of PvP while ignoring the big 2 points:

1. PvP is dead. The lead designer has said so. GGG isn't going to "waste" any significant time on "fixing" it, so kneejerk tossoffs are all you can expect, if that. You should be happy they haven't removed dueling and the arena entirely! It would not come as a surprise to me at all if they do one of these versions... and treat it as a trivial removal at that, because it would be. The % of PoE players that actually PvP at all is already insignificant! Just look at how ignored and relatively empty this entire subforum is.

2. There are lots of much more important things if GGG were to suddenly start caring about making PvP non-silly, starting with dealing with offscreening and the lack of a proper newbies bracket or something similar to get any significant portion of the playerbase interested.

I like how you're going on about all this while your signature indicates that you're part of a vocal minority that goes out of their way to state how much they dislike the Labyrinth and how it should change for the better (kiiiiinda like us with PVP, in case what I said goes over your head).


Also, PVP wouldn't be "dead" (I put quotes around it because I see plenty of people in Arena and 1v1s, during temporary leagues, and even more when they're over) if GGG hadn't neglected PVP in the first place. If they'd balanced their shit from the start, it'd be fine, and a fun side-thing to do besides endless map-grinding. PVP being "dead" according to the lead designer doesn't mean it's necessarily true, either, it just means he doesn't care about it. It's dead to HIM. As for the small % of people who do PVP, it's not our fucking fault people are too scared to go into arena and test their characters out against other players.

As for your second suggestion, holy shit that's what we've been campaigning for THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME. Not one of us really WANTS OHK off-screening to go on, it's awful. We want the PVP community to grow and flourish. Maybe if you spent less time rolling your eyes, and spent more time pointing them at the goddamn screen while you're here on the forums, maybe you'd understand that.

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TheLastZica wrote:

I roll my eyes every time I see a thread like this trying to bandaid some comparatively trivial aspect of PvP while ignoring the big 2 points:

1. PvP is dead. The lead designer has said so. GGG isn't going to "waste" any significant time on "fixing" it, so kneejerk tossoffs are all you can expect, if that. You should be happy they haven't removed dueling and the arena entirely! It would not come as a surprise to me at all if they do one of these versions... and treat it as a trivial removal at that, because it would be. The % of PoE players that actually PvP at all is already insignificant! Just look at how ignored and relatively empty this entire subforum is.

2. There are lots of much more important things if GGG were to suddenly start caring about making PvP non-silly, starting with dealing with offscreening and the lack of a proper newbies bracket or something similar to get any significant portion of the playerbase interested.

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TheLastZica wrote:

I roll my eyes every time I see a thread like this trying to bandaid some comparatively trivial aspect of PvP while ignoring the big 2 points:

1. PvP is dead. The lead designer has said so. GGG isn't going to "waste" any significant time on "fixing" it, so kneejerk tossoffs are all you can expect, if that. You should be happy they haven't removed dueling and the arena entirely! It would not come as a surprise to me at all if they do one of these versions... and treat it as a trivial removal at that, because it would be. The % of PoE players that actually PvP at all is already insignificant! Just look at how ignored and relatively empty this entire subforum is.

2. There are lots of much more important things if GGG were to suddenly start caring about making PvP non-silly, starting with dealing with offscreening and the lack of a proper newbies bracket or something similar to get any significant portion of the playerbase interested.

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Aodui wrote:

I like how extreme this change was, I hope they take the same approach for aegis (only works on monster hits).
It goes in line with not letting juggernaut have free max endurance charges; I'd rather have ascendancies be special differentiators not build definers so we have more diversity in characters.

Excited to see if fireball does something or not, more excited about these new channeled skills, as they will probably be broken, or at least one or two will be.

Not happy with what looks like a bunch of trappers littering the floor with junk.
If the next three months are just trappers and EA that would be sad, even without Frostwall EA is too easy, maybe if they hired someone to clean up the debris in Sarn Arena.

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MullaXul wrote:

Time to be a mere mortal and endure the struggle along side us melee.

But you use a bow offhand and spam EA when fighting other melee right?
Replace the bow with another melee weapon to enjoy true suffering.

And for any other brothers, perhaps disgruntled Inquisitors looking to turn melee, who are considering using "Lacerate" and "Earthquake"; it is time to forsake such things, they are not true melee, true melee requires you to hit your opponent directly, with your weapon or fist, not from ten paces away as you swing at the air, or by punching the ground causing poison to bubble up in the surrounding area.

Look at all the newly buffed choices!

Cleave: 19% more damage.
Sweep: 15% more damage.
Viper Strike: 11% more damage.
Double Strike: 13% more damage.
Heavy Strike: 5% more damage.
Glacial Hammer: 6% more damage.
Dominating Blow: 6% more attack damage (not minion damage).
Lightning Strike: 9% more damage.
Wild Strike: 19% more damage. It now also gains 1% increased area of effect per level.
Static Strike: 16% more damage.

Now is the time for melee to shine in the wake of the inquisitor's fall!
This is a buff!