[DEAD in 3.0] DESTROY THE ATLAS! | 2H Dual Warchief Totem

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iamxeph wrote:
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Spacecom wrote:
Hello my name is Spacecom :D.
I am considering copying your build.I never had a "melee" character but 2 summoners.If you think about it, I migth want to make your build because it's another kind of summoner rather than a melee.Anyway.I have two questions:
1)Wouldn't it be better if you 6L the vaal axe and put there the Ancestral Warchief for the +2 lvl of supported gems, instead of Belly of the Beast?
2)What's the point of Vaal Lightning Trap?The only I can think of is shocking the enemies for extra damage combined maybe with elemental equilibrium if anc. warchief have some fire damage.
Thanks in advance.
By the way, I figured that, someone doesn't have to farm Uber Atziri to drop Vaal Axe.Farming normal Atziri for Mortal Hope fragments is enough.4 mortal hope=1 atziri vaal axe.Because killing with this build or an older character normal Atziri is much more easier.And if you get the vaal axe you can proceed into uber aztiri farm for extra cash.


What do you mean by '4 Mortal Hope = 1 Atziri Vaal Axe'?


1) For Melee Skills the diffrence is very small other than for casters, cause you essentially get no flat +#damage boost but a small % dmage boost. My way offers you to run another aura instead of like 5-6 damage booost from running all support gems in the axe.
2) The trap is pretty handy for endgame boss fights where you want to squeeze all damage you can get (eg. double vaals in uber)
3) Thats another approach to getting the axe and a pretty good one. but I think uber-lab farming is better in total. This build destroys the lab so hard its not even funny. Just save your offerings and check for a "good layout day". If its a "no golden door" day, then chain farm it for maximum profit. last sunday I did about 80 runs with an average of 5min/run ratio full keys. I found even a shavs (of Argus) and alot of other high value stuff alongside tons of t15s and at least 20 enchants that go for 5-10ex in standard.

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Xafniko wrote:
For anyone who is still in a thoughts between belly and brass, here is my experience from using both of them.

ofc i choose brass, and here's why.


with belly, u defintely gets more life, but the more life dun really helps, since u r already quite tanky and as long as you dun get one shit, u just pot to full.

belly to brass is abt 40%+ reduction to 60%+

and like the OP said, the thing you want, is crit immune. crit is just abt the only thing that can kill you basically.

belly give u 500-700 life, so if u have 5500hp (example) and 6200hp and a hard crit hit comes in or u miss a bearers group, u will just die. no difference. however, with crit immue, that hard crit, becomes a normal hit, thus even at 5500, u live. And i even eat a group of frost bearers and did not die yesterday... lol but i was at 5% hp with 6400 hp with brass. was a miracle. someone killed a grp of bearer in the shaped mesa map at the boss portal and the rest of the grp port in on the bearers.

so basically, TL;DR, if u are doing a specific fight like Uber atz, Shaper, where u can have control of all the environment mechanic like when to dodge and run, belly night be better. If you are leveling, doing tons of maps with yr friends, with un-expecting events, brass is the way to go.


Especially the Chimera Fight makes a massive diffrence noticeable. With belly an 6,5k Life I had alot of trouble staying alive and even died two time during my testing. With Brass the fight is actually a joke and I take 2k hits maximum aside from the Dog Minibosses bleed.
Last edited by GornoDD#3738 on Sep 27, 2016, 2:08:26 AM
Hi, I want to do Shaper with this build. What gear piece should I go for to optimise for it? I've been thinking about Taste of Hate / Brass Dome / Cospri's for a 7th link? I don't wanna grind for two items. Right now I have 6.2k life and 75k with conc effect+poison. Is it doable with these stats? I'm somewhat bad mechanically mind you lol (Gonna get 20q gems and helm enchant sometime soon)


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Last edited by dinazor60#4137 on Sep 27, 2016, 4:31:51 PM
Silly question, how do you sell the enchants from lab?
Fun Build so far :) I'm not rich, so I'm on the Hammer path. Also, I lack an Enlightment gem, so tons of Auras doesn't really work ... for one thing, I can not run Hatred (which reserves a massive 70% .. ugh!). I also have a hard time with good rings etc to keep on top of resists and enough INT etc. I'm not at 75% for all of them atm ... still running Tier 10 maps though :) But I noticed I get oneshot a lot now, so without better Armor, life, full resists etc, I'll be a bit in a dark corner till I can upgrade. Also, while I could afford the helmet and gauntlets, there' sno way I can afford the totem damage or vulnerability versions .. those are huge $$$ if you can even find them in the market.

What's the general consensus on Atlas+ items ... do we still go for the Belly? Or are there better Options these days?

I hope to become at least Atziri safe. Uberlab I don't dare to waste yet, with my crappy defense. 9k+ armor and 3.7k life atm aren't really enough by a long shot to avoid one shots it seems :P

Last edited by voonvoon#6984 on Sep 27, 2016, 7:12:01 AM
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voonvoon wrote:
Fun Build so far :) I'm not rich, so I'm on the Hammer path. Also, I lack an Enlightment gem, so tons of Auras doesn't really work ... for one thing, I can not run Hatred (which reserves a massive 70% .. ugh!). I also have a hard time with good rings etc to keep on top of resists and enough INT etc. I'm not at 75% for all of them atm ... still running Tier 10 maps though :) But I noticed I get oneshot a lot now, so without better Armor, life, full resists etc, I'll be a bit in a dark corner till I can upgrade. Also, while I could afford the helmet and gauntlets, there' sno way I can afford the totem damage or vulnerability versions .. those are huge $$$ if you can even find them in the market.

What's the general consensus on Atlas+ items ... do we still go for the Belly? Or are there better Options these days?

I hope to become at least Atziri safe. Uberlab I don't dare to waste yet, with my crappy defense. 9k+ armor and 3.7k life atm aren't really enough by a long shot to avoid one shots it seems :P



Can you show us your gear and tree? Or make your Character tab in your profile visable?

Atziri and Uberlab is really easy with this build (Didn't tried Uber yet). But you should do it at a certain level I guess (85+) unless you know what you are doing. And you should be geared for it.

here is my very casual gear. (5.1k life or so)
The most expensive Item was the chest with 40c. And you'll get them now very cheap. (10c from my last search, which is very affordable and coloured 4r2g white uncorrupted)

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Hi GornoDD nice build and would you considering give Starforge a try?
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RipQuartz wrote:
Hi GornoDD nice build and would you considering give Starforge a try?


I dont think starforge is good for this build. There actually is another build in this forum that trys exactly that. It has too many downsides to justify its use.

Disfavour outclasses it in almost all departments but raw dps and life.
Sixlinking my Brass Dome will never happen I think, probably I will need to wear my Tabula forever. Guess I will just sell the Brass Dome and save up until I can directly buy a sixlinked one.

But other than this chestpiece-issue the build works great and so far I have cleared everything up to t14 with ease. Sitting at 5.2k life and 75k dps per totem with increased aoe and poison gem. I don't even reallyfeel too squishy despite tabula, did a twinned, -max resi t14 earlier today and it was rather easy. Only took some time due to physical reflect, but who cares?

Besides my chest, which crappy piece of gear should I look to upgrade next?
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eviL_Bison wrote:

Can you show us your gear and tree? Or make your Character tab in your profile visable?


How do I link things here?
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voonvoon wrote:

How do I link things here?


At first, open a new reply.

Then at the upper left corner of the forum you'll see your character, klick in his name, then you'll see his Items, a simple left klick on it, will post the sourcecode to your post. This character screen is a pop up, a far left or right klick will minimize/close it.

Thats all.
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