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thurmack wrote:
Can someone explain how CoC is at all of use anymore?
The 500ms cooldown means the maximum cast speed is 2/sec, right?
So you need CoC and a trigger skill (say Barrage) plus your spell just to get, at best, two casts per second... which you can easily exceed with any self-cast spell.
Plus, we need to put a tonne of passives into crits just so we can get those two triggers per second!
Am I missing something, or is it basically pointless to use CoC? At best you can use the rotating spell thing to get EE, but even then you need to use another socket for a 2nd spell that only triggers every other time. Might as well just use a damage support!
So maybe I'm just not getting this right. Am I missing something here, or is CoC now essentially just weaker in every way than self-casting?
Unfortunately this is how most of us see it now, effectively they took the CoC gem and through it in the trash bin.
I don't think it works like that. The 500ms cooldown is only for one spell of the same type. It can cast only one spell per frame but can cast all socketed spells (but only in a sequence and only if the previous spell is on the 500ms cooldown). That means that the theoretical maximum number of spells per second is <number of spells> * 2. So with 3 different spells you can cast 6 spells per second with CoC. And each spell has 39% more damage on top of that and a 100% chance to cast on crit now. So its not that bad but not as great as before.
Oh, I see - the cooldown is applied to each spell so we're seeing a maximum of two castings per spell per second. That's not the worst thing ever, though I guess I can drop the GMP on my barrage... more triggers won't be doing me any good :)
Thanks pal! Glad I can still salvage my LL coc wander.
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Posted bythurmack#0592on Aug 31, 2016, 5:30:12 AM
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what happen to evasion and ES. they announce it will be delete and replace by a warcry ! no news about that.
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Posted bysyltar#3707on Aug 31, 2016, 5:32:22 AM
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2pher wrote:
so armour is the only one got limitation? ES and EVA unlimited! block and dodge is also for dexterity and intelligence thats how this game favor for spell and bow user.
ES is kinda overwhelming, but eva and block and dodge is not that good. Eva is capped at 95%, and you cant get es and dodge, or block and dodge at the same time, and this evasions won't prevent you from getting one shot but armor will.
even 90%armour gets one shot by high phys damage like izaro and useless in high spell damage. and another things my problem is I dont play spell user, is like playing dick in your hand. ha ha haah.....
Last edited by 2pher#4748 on Aug 31, 2016, 5:36:57 AM
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Posted by2pher#4748on Aug 31, 2016, 5:32:25 AM
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They nerfed bladefall mine too.
poison and clear speed .
Now bladefall will only fall on the mine like firestorm mine. the clearspeed will be worse than before and you have to be nearer to the ennemies than before.
Really good only for bosses
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Posted byBamzyniigata#7199on Aug 31, 2016, 5:33:00 AM
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Ice Spear 70% more damage? Wow, its actually HOT!
Also, RIP CoC builds :P
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thrilled wrote:
Wow these nerfs hits HARD....
My two planned CoC builds are not gonna happen and the ones I had well sleep well...
Should I be mad on GGG for this? Hardly not... Why? Well I can only blame myself for being foolishly attracted to the flavor of the month builds (which always are the builds using the most powerful and OP skills).
Maybe I for once can learn to go with a skill that may turn out decent and avoiding the nerfbats in the future :)
I am still excited on the new league especially since I have no clue what I gonna play now :)
/T
That's the attitude dude
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First post. Any idea how big the patch is going to be in size?
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Posted byDTBA#0152on Aug 31, 2016, 5:35:34 AM
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Proper nerfs! Also like you buff some legacy skills! Keep that way!
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Posted byfiltre#4812on Aug 31, 2016, 5:37:58 AM
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A lvl 1 character equiped with a rusted sword is gonna have better DPS than a legacy mjölner build worth over 300 ex.
^ Naah, not worth over 300ex. Not anymore legacy mjölner is worth nothing anymore.
I'm completely fine with all the nerfs except the voidheard nerf. Sure voidhearth was too strong for a single item but it has shortened the gap between melee and ranged chars a lot. That plus the nerf to EQ (not saying EQ don't deserve the nerf) now it's completely path of ranged chars again. That's very sad but since I expected excactly almost these nerfs and I builded around all the nerfed items I don't give a fuck.
Fun fact: GGG can remove the pale council fight now from the game because the new reach bow is weaker than even the opus bow now let alone strong bows like prism or chin sol! ;o)
German saying: Schönheit und Funktionalität in Sekundenschnelle zu ruinieren, ist dem wahren Dilettanten keine Herausforderung!
torturo: "Though, I'm really concerned, knowing by practice the capabilities of the balance team."
top2000: "let me bend your rear for a moment exile" Last edited by 666lol666#3140 on Aug 31, 2016, 5:41:13 AM
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Posted by666lol666#3140on Aug 31, 2016, 5:38:57 AM
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TheAshmaker wrote:
HOLY FUCK REALLY? THIS IS STRAIGHT RETARDED....RIP Mjolner, CoC. Straight f this game.
Just made a Mjolner 3 days ago 90 ex gone now ..............
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Posted byYoItsTrick#1910on Aug 31, 2016, 5:39:27 AM
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