GGG, Lab thoughts + suggestions.

.......you are comparing 100 life regen with a stone golem for an archer vs 600 life regen+ for armor + life regen chars.... LOL...




*facepalms and gets out of this*

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EKTELESTES wrote:

.......you are comparing 100 life regen with a stone golem for an archer vs 600 life regen+ for armor + life regen chars.... LOL...
*facepalms and gets out of this*

What does Armour have to do with Life Regen? Does the game give you life regen based on how much armour you have?

And the golem is 1 source. Did you miss the part where there are actually life regen passives on the right side of the tree?

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sidtherat wrote:

asc points are rewards for the worthy. be one and these are yours. askimg for freebies does wonders in real life too

*pay 1-8c or 2 trials for lab run*
*let the guy lead the way*
*let the guy kill Izaro*
*only need to dodge minimum amount of traps thanks to gold doors*

Oh yes, I'm SO worthy to ascendent...

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sidtherat wrote:

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Example 2: Why should so many players suffer because of lab lag and desyncs? Don't tell me about Internet connections coz I've seen major streamers desync in the lab and die coz they were on top of a spike / door trap.

examples. 'so many' is a neat way of saying 'i do not know how many but lets make it sound serious'

no difference between this and your abhorrent "vocal minority" - concept you so much like to flaunt. irony.

If being worthy to ascend was truely an aim for the lab it would be single player only.

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Prebornfetus wrote:

If being worthy to ascend was truely an aim for the lab it would be single player only.

LOL. Don't give them ideas, you might disappoint all guys offering "courier" services :P

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Prebornfetus wrote:

If being worthy to ascend was truely an aim for the lab it would be single player only.

You can be carried through the entire game in order to advance. There is nothing different in that respect between the lab, and the rest of the game.

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Xtorma wrote:

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Prebornfetus wrote:

If being worthy to ascend was truely an aim for the lab it would be single player only.

You can be carried through the entire game in order to advance. There is nothing different in that respect between the lab, and the rest of the game.

I was sayin that to show the ppl that being worthy is ascend is not part of the lab in reality as you can get a carry so it is part of the reason why removing ascendancy from lab can happen

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Prebornfetus wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

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Prebornfetus wrote:

If being worthy to ascend was truely an aim for the lab it would be single player only.

You can be carried through the entire game in order to advance. There is nothing different in that respect between the lab, and the rest of the game.

I was sayin that to show the ppl that being worthy is ascend is not part of the lab in reality as you can get a carry so it is part of the reason why removing ascendancy from lab can happen

Yes ,and as I said , removing ascendancy points from the lab in my opinion is disrespectful, but not game breaking.

That being said , the lab was designed as a challenge. If you decide to forgo that challenge because you don't like it that's on you. It was not created to be circumvented. It's an option, just like getting a friend to kill malachi is an option if you don't like the fight, or your build is not up to par yet, but you still want to advance to the next difficulty.

Honestly, though. If Odun gives you an ascendancy book for killing malachi it's no skin off of my nose. The only thing that will piss me off about that, is I can do the lab faster than I can run the malachi bullshit, so they better leave both options open.

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Xtorma wrote:

If you decide to forgo that challenge ***because you don't like it that's on you***. It was not created to be circumvented. It's an option, just like getting a friend to kill malachi is an option if you don't like the fight, or your build is not up to par yet, but you still want to advance to the next difficulty.

Or because your build CANNOT do it (mostly talking about Uber here but even Merci Izaro can be tough for some builds until they are high level). Just like many builds can't even do Vorici's missions or reflect / bm maps etc.

The problem here is though that the ascendancy points are THERE and they're INDISPENSABLE part of progressing in this game, as they can totally alter your character.

Maps can be rolled, bosses can be skipped ( still bad design, but anyway ), BUT with ascendancy points you only have 1 and only option: RUN the lab, kill Izaro, get your points. That's why we're saying it's a REALLY BAD DESIGN; . Yeah, you could have someone carry you, but what kind of game design requires others to constantly help you? :P Where is the sense of achievement in that? Why should you be frustrated in trying to find someone to help you?


That's why we are raving about the non-existent balance in this Game. It has so much potential , yet it's not being realized.